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Mark
Yahooooooo!!! (and I don't mean yahoo the web site).  I'm with you
Zelik

-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark
Ranft
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [Possible SPAM] OpenMPE - funeral or future?

Pete,

I for one do not think MPE is dead.  I have hopes.  I am an optimist.  But
like so many others, I have heard over and over again how MPE is dead.  And
now I am hearing how OpenMPE is dead.  And I am getting worn down.  

Are these people saying your ideas won't work, promoting the future of MPE?
Why are these cynics part of this group?  What are they hanging out here
for?  And what about OpenMPE?  Is it simply an organization set up as a
buffer as HP eases MPE out of the picture?  What is OpenMPE really doing
anyway?  Have they made any progress?  

If there is a small role, I can play in the future of MPE, sign me up.  I
will help.  

Mark Ranft
Mark - at - pro3k.com

-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:39 PM
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Subject: [Possible SPAM] OpenMPE - funeral or future?
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Well I have certainly heard from the vocal minority!

I had the impression that OpenMPE was about open systems and taking
MPE forward.  Maybe I was wrong.  Or, maybe the silent majority is
afraid to speak, I don't know.

First I was told how my ideas wouldn't work, sometimes with arguments
that had nothing to do with what I was suggesting.  Then, magically
links to commercial solutions appeared that seem to do similar things
to what I proposed, or in the case of MPUX, seems to be almost
identical.  Well, I guess I wasn't too far off base to begin with.

So, at least at this point, there is no reason why OpenMPE is not
technically possible as an environment running on top of a Linux
distribution on any server hardware sold.  I do not see this being
viable as a closed source commercial product.  Maybe I am wrong there,
but my experience with both tells me that this is the only viable
solution for an OpenMPE.

There have been a number of statements about Linux, and how OpenMPE
would impact Linux that are just not true.  Why?  I can only imagine.
Seems as though there are ulterior motives, and that a successful
OpenMPE would hurt their conversion business.  All I know is that they
are very negative about MPE.  So why are they on a list of what they
describe as dead software, and then bother to waste their time arguing
for its death?  To pick over the bones?  Why don't they move on?
There is a reason, and besides making money off the death of MPE, what
other reason is there?

I can't say I don't like making money, because I do.  But, I also see
the value of open source in creating infrastructure.  It is part
barter and part ego boost for techies.  The barter part is that I give
you my improvement and 10, 100, or a 1000 other techies give me
theirs.  Plus, if you are a techie, it is not bad to have your name
listed in a successful software product.  Also, there are many people
making money on "free" Linux, including companies like HP and IBM,
where it is a strategic OS.  There could be many commercial
applications built on top of an open source OpenMPE, besides inhouse
development.

If you are interested in the SUCCESS of OpenMPE and believe, or at
least interested in the possibility, of creating an MPE user mode
environment on top of Linux, let me know, either on or off list.  If
there is enough interest, I will put together an initial design for
perusal and subsequent modification.

- Pete



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