Sorry, Said, my rant was completely irrelevant, other than the subject line
being appropriate.  I think your understanding generally matches what's
being aired here.

Tracy Pierce

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Said Salomon [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:26 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: MPE Licensing (Thanks to Jeff Vance)
>
>
> First off $500 is cheap.  Don't forget most of us are trying
> to avoid a migration effort, which could cause easily cost
> 100 to 1000 times the $500.
>
> The emulator should be looked at as a virtual HP3000, so you
> are paying for a license transfer from your current real
> hardware HP3000 to the new virtual HP3000 (software
> emulator).  I would hope this is the way it going to work.
> That way as long as the use the same emulator you could
> change the hardware under it as much as you need with out
> having to pay additional fees.
>
>
> Later,
>  Said Salomon
> [log in to unmask]
> 267-620-2381
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Pierce [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: MPE Licensing (Thanks to Jeff Vance)
>
> I'd very gladly pay $500 to license MPE *RIGHT NOW* even
> though the box I
> want to license IS already licensed - I just don't happen to hold that
> license, and the alleged licensee no longer exists.
>
> I'd sure like to see HP get a little less draconian about this; if the
> software licenses really exist in any way shape or form, HP
> should have
> access to those (being the licensor) and should thus be able
> to tell me
> "That system is stolen!" or whatever, such as "we sold that
> box on x/y/z to
> abc inc with license to run MPE, Image, etc, for 100 users".
> Then if they
> want to put my name on it, based on my claim of ownership, amen.
>
> Instead I'm being told, after going thru circular telephone
> connections and
> rigid HP-internal catch-22 procedures, that I have a 600-lb
> paperweight.
>
> Tracy (thursday rant, sorry, I know hp's reading this) Pierce
> 415-923-2266
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cecile Chi [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:46 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: MPE Licensing (Thanks to Jeff Vance)
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/19/02 8:13:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > << The $500 ballpark for new MPE license (one time cost) is flat-out
> >  unacceptable.
> >   >>
> >
> > Oh, I think it's a bargain!
> >
> > Cecile
> >
>