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"VANCE,JEFF (HP-Cupertino,ex1)" <[log in to unmask]>
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VANCE,JEFF (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
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Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:40:44 -0800
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Chuck wrote:
> My point is that I, not HP, own my current 3000.

Correct, you own the h/w, but HP owns the s/w and has issued you
the right (a license) to use that s/w, at least that is how I
understand it. However, strangely at least to me, you don't really
have a piece of paper that is a dedicated, official license. At
least AFAIK, your purchase order or invoice serves as the license
to use MPE FOS and the subsystems you've purchased, with any user
restrictions for an unlimited time. If you sell your 3000 you
need to provide the proof of ownership to HP so that the s/w
license can be transferred to the new owner.

> Why should HP have the right to claim the hardware that I
> could sell, or use
> for spare parts on other systems, if I choose to move to an
> emulator to run my current licensed copy of MPE?

I understand your question better now after some reflection,
so I asked one of our licensing people. Here's what I've
been told.  BUT please bear in mind that what I describe
below MAY not carry over to MPE on an emulator. Today, you
can MOVE an OS license for HP-UX from one box to another for
no fee. The requirement is that you physical MOVE the OS such
that it does not reside on the original system. You can do this
as often as you like as long as the OS is actually moved. You
can notify HP about this move but you are not required to,
though if you have an HP Support contract you probably want to
tell them.

A similar process also exists today for MPE extra cost products.
They can be moved to another CPU, at no cost and w/o an obligation
to notify HP. However, today there is no way to MOVE MPE OS to
another system, yet that is exactly what some of the potential
emulator customers wish to do.  So, it seems reasonable to
follow the HP-UX model of allowing MPE to be moved (not copied)
to an emulator system. I would hope that we don't charge for
this, but that decision has not been made.

Finally, if you wish to continue using your e3000 AND you wish to
start using MPE on an emulator then you will need to purchase a
new MPE license.

Is that clearer?

 Jeff

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