Come on now JIM..
If you read what Paul is saying it makes sense and it makes sense to me as I am one of the certified pros. I needed reinstatement for some of the work I do with my clients. Even if my certs are not "active" the documents do represent me in a different way.
As for Paul making a profit... I think you are being nasty. Paul is a true die hard HP3000 professional. HP killed all means of training, Paul got HP to re-kindle the training but gave it to Paul. There is no real money in it, just a passion to keep the torch lit..
So get off your soapbox and rant somewhere else.
take it from me "I rant enough for everyone".
Joe
-------------- Original message from Jim Chance <[log in to unmask]>: --------------
> Of all the replies I've received, yours is the SOLE
> response supporting the cert.
>
> And imagine..........hmmmmm, you also are someone who
> can potentially PROFIT from someone ridicuously
> pursuing a certificiation in a DEAD career direction.
>
> I could go on with more rhetoric, but its not worth
> it, you know and realize the TRUE value in someone
> certifying with MPE.
>
> --- Paul Edwards wrote:
>
> > Your comments show that you don't understand the
> > details of this situation.
> > If you don't have the MPE/iX certifications, you
> > can't get them now. Only
> > the people who received the certifications
> > originally, are affected by this
> > program because their certifications are restored as
> > "inactive". That means
> > we can now have access again to the HP Certified
> > Professionals web site.
> > There, we are encouraged to obtain additional
> > certifications on other
> > disciplines.
> >
> > There will be loss of HP3000 professionals
> > continually over the next few
> > years. This means those HP3000 customers who wait to
> > migrate for a few years
> > won't have the talent pool to choose from for help
> > in their migration
> > projects. It will be important for these customers
> > to be able to find
> > certified HP3000 professionals who have the proper
> > technical skills to
> > assist them in their future migrations. There are
> > still a large number of
> > small and medium sized customers who have made the
> > choice to homestead for
> > some time in the future.
> >
> > MPE-Education.Com has been contacted by several
> > companies who have expressed
> > interest in MPE training and some have been invoiced
> > for the MPE/iX
> > Fundamentals class in November.
> >
> >
> >
> ***************************************************************
> > CDR Paul Edwards USNR Ret. HP 3000/9000
> > Certified Consultant
> > Paul Edwards & Associates Phone: (972)
> > 242-6660
> > 1506 Estates Way Fax : (972)
> > 446-9022
> > Carrollton TX 75006 Cel : (214)
> > 384-8728
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> >
> ***************************************************************
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: OpenMPE Support Group
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim
> > Chance
> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:38 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] MPE Certification
> > Announcement
> >
> > I a 22 yr. IT guy with 16 yrs. HP3k and personally I
> > don't know why anyone
> > would want to pursue or care about this particular
> > cert. Just my opinion. As
> > much as I hate it, the HP3k market, shops, places
> > with it fully running
> > production, conferences/workshops, new sales, new
> > ERP on that platform, and
> > technical knowledge is DEAD or quickly DYING. When
> > will folks realize this?
> > Turnover to other platforms and skills is at an all
> > time high. Universities
> > and corporations are de-commissioning there boxes at
> > an astounding rate. How
> > do I know this, by being a contractor since 1997. I
> > could go on and on about
> > this trend. I asked......who was it, I forget, but
> > some vendor who puts on
> > training to become MPE cert isn't getting ANY paying
> > students, none. So why
> > does the board or anyone else lobby for something
> > that frankly - and
> > realistically, just plan out isn't in "demand"? I
> > appreciate efforts, but
> > really? I can think of a dozen former and/or
> > dwindling HP3k guys who are now
> > pursuing MS cert's; there is no way they'd want to
> > spend $ or time on
> > certifying as MPE.
> >
> > Hmmmmm.
> >
> > --- donna hofmeister
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The OpenMPE Board of Director's is pleased to
> > announce that HP has
> > > agreed to reinstate the credentials for certified
> > MPE/iX System
> > > Administrators and Presales Professionals. This
> > effort, led by Board
> > > member Paul Edwards, indicates that success is
> > possible even when the
> > > odds seem insurmountable!
> > >
> > > The Board is continuing to advocate with HP for
> > the tests to be
> > > re-administered so that certificate holders can
> > regain their active
> > > status and people wishing to document their
> > knowledge of MPE can
> > > achieve certification.
> > >
> > > If you'd like to read more about this, please
> > visit:
> > >
> >
> http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2006/08/3000_certificat.html
> > >
> > > If MPE certification is important to you, please
> > speak out to let HP
> > > know that you want it!
> > >
> > > For the Board of Directors,
> > >
> > > Donna Hofmeister
> > > Secretary
> > >
> > > Donna Hofmeister, HP-CSA Sr. System Programmer
> > dgarverick -at- longs
> > > -dot- com
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> > >
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