Good point. Harkening back to the days of the transition from classic HP stack architecture to PA-RISC architecture I remember a few non-reproducible bugs and a lot of blood
sweat and tears spent on them. It would seem to me that if Cognos wants to collect licensing fees for their software run on an emulator then there must be some minimal level of
support provided. However, if no fees were collected or just a minimal fee then no support would be expected. Just my 0.02 cents.

Paul


On Thu, 8 May 2003 20:53:28 -0400, Jonathan M. Backus wrote:

>FYI
>
>Thanx,
>    Jon Backus
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On Behalf Of Leathers, Burton
>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 8:28 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>Cc: Whittall, Conrad
>Subject: RE: PA-RISC Emulator (WAS: Questionnaire results)
>
>
>Jon,
>
>First, allow me to introduce myself. I am Burton Leathers and have
>recently joined the ADT team as architect.
>
>Since you ask a question about a hypothetical matter, it warrants a
>hypothetical answer. A PA-RISC emulator must, to deserve the name, be
>indistinguishable from a PA-RISC system. It should, therefore, be
>possible to run ADT products without any change on any such emulator.
>
>The practical question is whether Cognos would support a system used in
>such a setting. That would depend very much upon whether the emulator
>was certified as being valid. So long as Cognos supports the ADT
>products on a PA-RISC system then users should be able to use an
>emulator. (I pointedly ignore details such as licensing.) However, any
>problem reported on an emulator would also have to be reproducible on a
>PA-RISC system.
>
>That said, if there turns out to be a significant uptake of PA-RISC
>emulation by existing customers, there would have to be a
>reconsideration of whether "non-reproducible" bugs would be addressed,
>i.e. whether the emulator would be treated as a separate, supported
>platform. Let's wait to see how the future unfolds.
>
>Burton Leathers
>Software Architect
>Cognos Incorporated
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:28 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>Subject: PA-RISC Emulator (WAS: Questionnaire results)
>
>
>
>Hello Jon,
>
>Unfortunately I've not been involved with the management of the ADT
>business for a couple of years now (although I keep my hand in with
>designing and building new internal -- and hopefully external -- PHWeb
>apps from time to time). Therefore the question of whether Cognos will
>consider supporting the ADT products on a PA-RISC emulator is something
>that I can't really comment on. Perhaps someone else might be able to
>let us know where this topic currently stands.
>
>Best regards,
>Conrad
>
>Conrad Whittall
>Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
>Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9,
>Canada
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonathan M. Backus [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: 8 May 2003 14:53
>To: 'Whittall, Conrad'; [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: Questionaire results
>
>
>Conrad,
>
>    Can you tell us were Cognos stands on supporting a 'PA-RISC'
>emulator that would allow the "true" MPE operating system, complete with
>Image and all other sub-systems, to continue to run on non-HP3000
>hardware?
>
>Thanx,
>    Jon Backus
>


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