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Karsten Holland <[log in to unmask]>
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Karsten Holland <[log in to unmask]>
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Welcome Paul;  

You have a very special new system to play with, unique in a lot of ways.
One of the most profound things about the 3000 is it's file handling.  File
labels carry a lot of information, including record length. Carriage
returns, and line-feeds do not dictate your record size. 

This is just one of the features that makes the HP3000 valuable for
transaction processing. Others include efficiency (a 400MHZ box could serve
300 users), database security (Image has it's own file-type "PRIV",
integrated with MPE which implements security on database files at the
system level). An excellent command-file shell that can be used online or in
batch to link process steps together, (as well as a posix shell and C
compiler). A simple but effective screen handling system VPLUS, which allows
quick deployment for data entry, and integration with COBOL (or your
language of preference) through intrinsic calls. It was (is?) a valuable
component of many data processing centers around the world. (And will be
missed.)

Feel free to call on me about any of these features, I'll try and point you
in the right direction too.

Regards,
Karsten Holland
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-----Original Message-----
From: Schwartzman, Zelik [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:04 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Newbie on list...

Paul
If you need help I will be happy to talk you through it.  Call me Wednesday
between 9-4 EST and I'll be happy to assist 631.531.1581.  Ive done this a
few thousand times and its not that difficult

Zelik
-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
donna hofmeister
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:44 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Newbie on list...

welcome paul!

somewhat more precisely with regards to what craig said:

http://docs.hp.com/en/mpeixall.html -- you'll want to bookmark this.

about nmmgr.  you may already find that a network was defined inside of
nmmgr.  if so, there is a high probability that the path to your
multi-function io card (mfio; which as I'm sure you already noticed has many
different ports/connectors on the back -- hence the name) is already
configured.

the really interesting question becomes -- was this system ever configure to
talk over ethernet/tcpip or not?  if all that you find is something call
'dtslink' -- then there is some additional work to do.  if you find 'lan1'
then all that you should need to do is replace the ip address with
<whatever> and start your network as craig described.  (validating your
network configuration is important, btw)

(on the back of your mfio card...is there a thingy about the size of a
matchbox plugged into the aui port?)

you may also want to join hp3000-l (go to: http://raven.utc.edu) which is
where most of us mpe geeks hang out.  (you can think of this openmpe list as
a subset of hp3000-l)

shoot us questions as they arise.        - d

---
Donna Hofmeister
Allegro Consultants, Inc.
408-252-2330


> -----Original Message-----
> From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of
> Craig Lalley
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:19 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Newbie on list...
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> You may also want to check out the HP3000-L list on the same server.
> 
> To get started, check out...
> 
> docs.hp.com
> 
> As for NMMGR, I will give you the 'Cliff notes' version...
> 
> At the ISL prompt, where you type start norecovery... try typing
'ODE',
> for offline diagnostics... once in there type 'run mapper', this will 
> give you an 'ioscan' type of listing.
> 
> Look for the path of the ethernet card, you will need it for nmmgr.
> 
> Once the system has started enter NMMGR by typing 'NMMGR' AFTER
logging
> on as manager.sys.
> 
> F1 to open config, you may need to create it.
> 
> F3?  I believe is NS
> 
> F1 for guided config
> 
> Put the path and IP address in.
> 
> Save it, on the way out, look for the F5 'utility' key.... Validate NS 
> and DTS subsystems... don't worry 'store and forward errors... just
try
> re-validating again.
> 
> If clean... go to the : prompt and type
> 
> NETCONTROL START;NET=name you just created
> 
> NETCONTROL START;NET=LOOP
> 
> finally
> 
> NSCONTROL START
> 
> HTH, for now.
> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 9/28/08, Paul Raulerson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Paul Raulerson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Newbie on list...
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 11:28 PM Hi folks - just wanted to 
> > say hello and introduce myself, and of course, beg for pointers to 
> > newbie information.
> >
> > I picked up what I think is a really cool 917LX from eBay, loaded 
> > with MPE/IX 6.0. I have successfully encouraged it to IPL and let me 
> > in, but just about the sum total of my MPE command repertoire 
> > consists of "HELLO MANAGER.SYS;HIPRI"
> > and
> > Control-A SHUTDOWN DTC.  Oh, and getting the feeling my eyes glazed 
> > over and crossed when trying to figure out NMMGR.
> >
> > I'm not even quite sure what DTC means. :)
> >
> > Anyways, if anyone would be so kind as to point me to where the 
> > manuals might be stored on the internet, and in particular, any 
> > tutorials for how to learn and use MPE/ix, I would be most
> >
> > appreciative. And in particular, if anyone could be point me to the 
> > information on how to configure the network card so I might actually 
> > be able to access it without being on a serial console...
> > :)
> >
> > I live in the Austin area- if there are any gurus around the area 
> > who would like dinner on me in exchange for a bit of knowledge 
> > transfer, that can be arranged.
> >
> > This is only a "play" machine for me, I have no commercial work 
> > involved with it. However, I can trade expertise if you happen to 
> > need Unix, Mainframe, VMS, iSeries, Mac, C, COBOL, or Assembler 
> > help.  Or I can payback in (root) beer of your choice. :)
> >
> > Paul
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