John,

        Well thought out and presented thoughts (thank-you).  One clarification on
the "obstacles" topic, HP is not imposing an XP type of activation process.
That has been discussed as a possible activation process for the emulator,
which is strictly "round table" discussion at this point and is completely
outside of HP.

        With regards to the "Therefore, it would appear that efforts to gain
ownership of MPE are a waste of time and resources.", that may very well end
up being the truth but it is an exercise well worth going through in the
event that it is not.  After all, it was not that long ago that the
"information we received" on the non-HP3000 use of MPE implied the same
view.

Thanx,
        Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: OpenMPE Support Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
John Dunlop
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [OPENMPE] MPE/iX Licensing and Distribution for an Emulated
Environment


Jeff, Mark et al who are continuing the sterling work for the HP3000
community that they have always done: Guys, please be aware that there are a
lot of bitter feelings out there among the HP3000 faithful. I am sure that
is not news to you but it is probably difficult for the majority of HP3000
users to separate the recent(ish) management decisions at HP from the
sincere enthusiasm for the future of MPE shown by the few CSY and support
people that remain. Before the announcement, HP3000 customers were extremely
loyal to HP, since the announcement, HP3000 customers are loyal to MPE and
are very lacking in trust for HP. Part of the problem that I perceive is
that HP is still determined to extract $$$s from the community that it has
turned its back on (notice I said HP, I don't really include CSY under the
HP umbrella any more). It is my opinion (based on some information I
received) that HP will never relinquish its ownership of MPE and may well
even offer some support after the published EOL of 2006. Therefore, it would
appear that efforts to gain ownership of MPE are a waste of time and
resources. I have been reading the Emulator thread with interest as it seems
a promising direction , but it seems that HP is also throwing up obstacles
to this enterprise. I suppose it would be too much to hope that HP would
give its blessing to an Emulator without imposing restrictions, e.g. that it
must be run on an HP machine, each copy to cost $500, an XP type activation
process etc. I am not against paying for an Emulator but I think the cash
should go to the company who produces and maintains the software, not to HP.
Just my .02 Euros.

Cheers,

John Dunlop