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> From: fred White [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:14 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT: Terry Jones (from Monty Python) on War
>
>

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> Where have you been? In most cases our news media, except for weather
> reports, is just another form of polite, inane, entertainment for our
> entertainment-starved public. It reports what all of our leaders
> espouse, as the US position. I'm almost 79 years old and have never
> been polled about any issue. I have difficulty recalling more
> than 4 or
> 5 positions taken by any president which I could agree with. The vast
> majority of their positions are dictated by Big Business.
>
> > Every Republican president since I have been old enough to follow
> > politics has been accused by the news media and Democrats of being
> > intellectually inferior and out to kill old people, children and
> > wounded puppies.
>
> Actually, they're very intelligent, greedy, puppets of their business
> supporters.
>

Ah I see, it is business you despise.

> > One thing I have found common with liberals in the US media
> and around
> > the
> > world is that they surround themselves with people who think only as
> > they
> > do. They ignore any dissenting opinion to what they say as their
> > opinion is
> > free speech but what others say in disagreement is hate
> speech and not
> > worthy of consideration. So I guess it is natural that they begin to
> > believe
> > that everyone thinks the same way as they do. And if they
> do not, they
> > must
> > be discredited and destroyed at all costs.
>
> Can I conclude that you are a US liberal? This describes just what you
> are doing to the Europeans.

You lost me.

> Although Iraq may have weapons of mass destruction (like us, and some
> of which we supplied him with), there has been no assertion
> by Bush (or
> any other US leader) that he is planning an attack on the US.
> Why would
> he? He doesn't have to. Usama is doing it. Furthermore, Iraq is more
> vulnerable than Usama and overwhelming retaliation would be
> easy for us.
>
> > With Iraq, the French and German governments have aligned themselves
> > against
> > the US. The German resistance was a disappointment but the French
> > tactics
> > were no surprise.
>
> They and their people have aligned themselves against Bush
> and his Hell
> bent goal to attack Iraq (and to seize control of its oil). Remember,
> its business-driven.
>

Yes, I got your point. Business bad!

> > In the end, both governments are irrelevant to the outcome of the
> > situation in Iraq.
>
> What "situation in Iraq". How different is it from, say, 10 years ago?
>

I would say very little, hence the problem.

> > But they might cause the final crack that destroys the UN.
> So perhaps
> > it is true, in every cloud there is a silver lining.
>
> So-o-oo. After all these years and billions of investment which all
> previous administrations believed as being eminently worthwhile and
> after all of the good deeds that the UN has performed over
> those years,
> you're elated to see the UN perish. Congratulations on your "worldly"
> views.
>

Thank you.

I try to look at results not ideals.

> > Comments are my own, not my employer's... etc.
>
> For which your employer should be extremely grateful.
>

Ahh, a personal attack. What a suprise.

Comments are my own, not my employer's... etc.





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