At 02:55 PM 1/23/2006, you wrote:
>
>So why wasn't he "taken out" during the original
>gulf war, Shawn. How many thousands have
>suffered at his hands since then. You appear to
>have knowledge of all things "White House" !!!
god man, learn some history, that's how I know
what I know. It was the UN. Basically to get
the coalition together the first Prez Bush had to
agree that the war stopped at the border, they
weren't allowed to follow him in and take him
out, there was hope that the people would rise up
and overthrow him and they tried, that is what
resulted in even more deaths, especially among
the kurds. Clinton didn't follow up and do
anything to support the Iraqis, but he did launch
a whole bunch of missiles in there once or twice,
usually around the time of breaking sex scandals.
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shawn Gordon
>Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2006 9:41 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] RE : [HP3000-L] OT: The Century Ahead
>
>At 01:38 PM 1/23/2006, Buckingham, Simon wrote:
> >
> >Can anybody tell me at what point Saddam Hussein ceased to be a CIA puppet?
>
>he was never a cia puppet - the US supported
>Iraq to a certain degree during the iran/iraq
>war because of the issues with iran that the US
>had - however this type of question is so
>typical of liberals in general, they can never
>answer a simple question, they always divert by
>saying "yea, well what about this or that?".
>
>Any of you bright liberals want to answer the questions?
>
>1. What to do about North Korea? Clinton
>thought he made a deal, the NK's ignored it and
>went nuclear 2. Saddam had and used WMD, this
>is documented fact, not a lie or anything else -
>diplomacy had failed for a decade, he was
>responsible for the deaths of hundreds of
>thousands of people. What would you have done about him? Leave him?
>3. What to do about Iran? This time we've
>continued to try diplomacy and now Hillary
>Clinton is basically saying we shouldn't have,
>which is obviously two faced. The EU3 was a
>massive failure, we let the Europeans do it
>there way with no result. What is the answer?
>
>Now the point is to actually answer the
>questions with viable answers not something like
>"Oh, everyone can live in peace", sure, that
>would be great, but radical islam wants the west
>dead, period. An answer also does not mean
>asking another question. If you liberals are
>honest with yourselves, you'll notice in your
>head as you look at these questions a tendency
>to want to ask another question instead of
>making an answer. If you can't answer the
>questions with something thought out and without
>trying to distract with another question, then
>you really don't have any business having an
>opinion on anything on the world stage because
>you can't offer any solutions, just pissing and moaning.
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Lee
> >Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2006 6:02 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] RE : [HP3000-L] OT: The Century Ahead
> >
> >So what are France and Canada doing to make the world a better place?
> >Did you send relief to New Orleans? Kenya? Nairobi? Indonesia? New
> >York City after 9/11? How about Nigeria, Bosnia, Chechyna, Turkey
> >(bird flu), etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.
> >
> >How many unprovoked terrorist attacks have been prevented because (some
> >countries) are engaging terrorism on its turf instead of on Western
> >turf? Do you relish the thought of the subway train you ride being
> >blown to bits some morning? Why don't you try to prevent that?
> >Instead, it appears as though you just accept it as part of life.
> >Sure, some rights have been violated. This is a war. A U.S. reporter
> >is being threatened with beheading as we speak. Her rights are being
> >violated. Why does that go unnoticed by some?
> >
> >Sorry to rant, but I'm fed up being the world's policeman and then
> >being blamed for all the world's problems. Maybe we should just let
> >the Middle East rain nukes on each other...might solve a few problems
> >(I'm not serious).
> >
> >John Lee
> >
> >At 07:37 PM 1/23/06 +0100, Christian Lheureux wrote:
> > >Torture : Abu Ghraib
> > >Wiretaps : Patriot Act
> > >Unprovoked war : Iraq
> > >
> > >Anyone needs more ?
> > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De
> > > > la part de Wirt Atmar Envoyé : lundi 23 janvier 2006 19:12 À :
> > > > [log in to unmask] Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] OT: The Century
> > > > Ahead
> > > >
> > > > Jay writes:
> > > >
> > > > > > Jay writes:
> > > > > > > Because bashing the USA is fashionable among the Left.
> > > > > > So you're all for torture, wiretaps and unprovoked wars?
> > > > >
> > > > > Typical leftist response. When did I ever say I was in favor of
> > > > > any or
> > > > all
> > > > > of those? (Even if I were to grant that the US had engaged in
> > > > > any or
> > > > all of
> > > > > them, a point I'm not going to concede.)
> > > >
> > > > Not much on reading the news lately, eh?
> > > >
> > > > (The "eh?" is my New Mexican imitation of a Canadian response.)
> > > >
> > > > Wirt Atmar
> > > >
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