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Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
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Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:59:00 -0500
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I think that if you multiply 8192 by 147,483,647 all will be explained.  The
message is misleading, you are in fact trying to create a 1,208,186,036,244
byte file.  I think that's rather large.  If I read that right, and it's
very late where I am, that's a 1.2 terabyte file. You will need a bigger
disk.  :-)

The other file you show is a 2GB byte stream file, which I believe is the
default maximum size.  Change your REC specifications.

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Brian Donaldson
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] The POSiX Animal On An MPE Box

Now I see what my error is --

BUILD /DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history;TEMP;CODE=2
700;REC=-8192,0001,V,ASCII;DISC=147483647;ULABEL=027

====>>> EXTENT SIZE EXCEEDS MAXIMUM  (FSERR 106) ====<<<

Build of file "/DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history" failed.
(CIERR
 279)

However, I am not specifying extents on the build command.

The temp file is being built with the same FLIMIT as the perm file and that
is causing the extents size error.

 FILE: /DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history

 FILE CODE : 0                   FOPTIONS: ASCII,BYTESTREAM,NOCCTL,STD
 BLK FACTOR: 1                   OWNER   : MGR.DEV             
 REC SIZE: 1(BYTES)              GROUP ID: DEV                 
 BLK SIZE: 1(BYTES)              SECURITY--READ    :           
 EXT SIZE: 0(SECT)                         WRITE   :           
 NUM REC: 52                               APPEND  :           
 NUM SEC: 16                               LOCK    :           
 NUM EXT: 1                                EXECUTE :           
 MAX REC: 2147483647                     **SECURITY IS ON      
                                 FLAGS   : NO ACCESSORS        
 NUM LABELS: 0                   CREATED : WED, AUG 13, 2008,  7:34 PM
 MAX LABELS: 0                   MODIFIED: WED, AUG 13, 2008,  7:35 PM
 DISC DEV #: 2                   ACCESSED: THU, AUG 14, 2008,  7:13 PM
 SEC OFFSET: 0                   LABEL ADDR: $0000005E.$005A9920 
 VOLCLASS  : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC

Apart from building the temp file with a smaller flimit, how do I get out of
this one?


TIA,
Brian.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:20:40 -0500, Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

>I'm sorry, I mistyped.  I meant CIERROR 279.
>
>:build ./denys/test1;temp
>COMPONENT OF PATH DOES NOT EXIST (FSERR 457)
>Build of file "./denys/test1" failed. (CIERR 279)
>:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Donaldson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:17 PM
>To: HP3000 List; Denys Beauchemin
>Subject: Re: The POSiX Animal On An MPE Box
>
><<snip>>
>
>A cierror 273 on a build means the file was not built, for whatever reason.
>What is important to get is the FSERROR.  I my case, I got a CIERROR 273
>when I created a temp POSIX file in a dummy directory, but the FSERROR is
>457, which is critical.
>
><<end snip>>
>
>Your 273 = 273 Expected record format of F, V, or U. (CIERR 273)
>Your 457 = 457 COMPONENT OF PATH DOES NOT EXIST (FSERR 457)
>
>(I got both of these errors from catalog.pub.sys)
>
>However, the error I am getting is a 279 (Build of file "!" failed. (CIERR
>279))
>
>The file actually exists even though the prior PURGE command gave me a -383
>error code.
>
> FILE: /DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history
>
> FILE CODE : 0                   FOPTIONS: ASCII,BYTESTREAM,NOCCTL,STD
> BLK FACTOR: 1                   OWNER   : MGR.DEV
> REC SIZE: 1(BYTES)              GROUP ID: DEV
> BLK SIZE: 1(BYTES)              SECURITY--READ    :
> EXT SIZE: 0(SECT)                         WRITE   :
> NUM REC: 52                               APPEND  :
> NUM SEC: 16                               LOCK    :
> NUM EXT: 1                                EXECUTE :
> MAX REC: 2147483647                     **SECURITY IS ON
>                                 FLAGS   : NO ACCESSORS
> NUM LABELS: 0                   CREATED : WED, AUG 13, 2008,  7:34 PM
> MAX LABELS: 0                   MODIFIED: WED, AUG 13, 2008,  7:35 PM
> DISC DEV #: 2                   ACCESSED: THU, AUG 14, 2008,  6:07 PM
> SEC OFFSET: 0                   LABEL ADDR: $0000005E.$005A9920
> VOLCLASS  : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC
>
>Brian.
>
>
>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:53:49 -0500, Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm a little confused.  I can certainly create a temporary POSIX file and
>>view it with listfile ;temp, as donna explained.
>>
>>But I cannot create a temporary POSIX file in a dummy directory.  CIERROR
>>-383, a warning, simply means the temp file was not found, for whatever
>>reason.
>>
>>A cierror 273 on a build means the file was not built, for whatever
reason.
>>What is important to get is the FSERROR.  I my case, I got a CIERROR 273
>>when I created a temp POSIX file in a dummy directory, but the FSERROR is
>>457, which is critical.
>>
>>Just do a showjcw and see what the fserror is and let us know.
>>
>>Denys
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>>Of Brian Donaldson
>>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:29 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] The POSiX Animal On An MPE Box
>>
>>Then why is my code not working? --
>>
>>
>>Back to my original posting --
>>
>><< In my program I am purging a file in the temp domain and then building
>it
>>again in the temp domain (possibly has different parms on the build
>>statement, that is why I am purging the old one first)
>>
>>>-0383>-0007>PURGE
>>/DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history,TEMP;NOCONFIRM
>>
>>The -383 is telling me the purge failed because the file does not exist in
>>the temp domain, which is just fine.
>>
>>So further down in the logic I am building the file in the temp domain.
>>The build command fails.
>>
>>Works just fine on files in the MPE file space but obviously isn't working
>>in the HFS POSiX space:
>>
>>
>>
>>                                               <
>>>+0279>+0106>BUILD
>>/DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history;TEMP;CODE=2700;REC=-8192
,
>0
>>001,V,ASCII
>>;DISC=147483647;ULABEL=027
>>
>>
>>                                               <
>>>>Build of file "!" failed. (CIERR 279)
>>
>>  <<
>>
>>The +279 is the code returned when the file already exists in the temp
>>domain.
>>
>>Can anyone tell me why this isn't working in the POSiX area but works fine
>>in the MPE area?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>Brian.
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:12:11 -0700, donna hofmeister <[log in to unmask]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>temporary posix files are quite possible:
>>>
>>>: build ./foo;temp
>>>: listfile ./@,2;temp
>>>
>>> TEMPORARY FILES FOR MGR.DONNA
>>>
>>> PATH= /DONNA/PUB/
>>>
>>> CODE  ------------LOGICAL RECORD-----------  ----SPACE----  FILENAME
>>>         SIZE  TYP        EOF      LIMIT R/B  SECTORS #X MX
>>>
>>>         128W  FB           0       1023   1        0  0  *  foo
>>>
>>>(I do believe, I do believe)
>>>
>>>        - donna
>>>
>>>---
>>>Donna Hofmeister
>>>Allegro Consultants, Inc.
>>>408-252-2330
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>>> Behalf Of Johnson, Tracy
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:36 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] The POSiX Animal On An MPE Box
>>>>
>>>> I always believed you cannot have TEMP files in the POSIX space, they
>>>> only exist in MPE space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tracy Johnson
>>>> Measurement Specialties Inc.
>>>> BT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NNNN
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
>>>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Donaldson
>>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 2:10 AM
>>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] The POSiX Animal On An MPE Box
>>>> >
>>>> > The POSiX saga continues.
>>>> >
>>>> > In my program I am purging a file in the temp domain and then
>>>> > building it
>>>> > again in the temp domain (possibly has different parms on the build
>>>> > statement, that is why I am purging the old one first)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >-0383>-0007>PURGE
>>>> > /DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history,TEMP;NOCONFI
>>>> > RM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > The -383 is telling me the purge failed because the file does
>>>> > not exist in
>>>> > the temp domain, which is just fine.
>>>> >
>>>> > So further down in the logic I am building the file in the
>>>> > temp domain.
>>>> > The build command fails.
>>>> >
>>>> > Works just fine on files in the MPE file space but obviously
>>>> > isn't working
>>>> > in the HFS POSiX space:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >                                                <
>>>> > >+0279>+0106>BUILD
>>>> > /DEV/PUB/mama/papa/baby/bear/porridge/.sh_history;TEMP;CODE=27
>>>> > 00;REC=-8192,0001,V,ASCII
>>>> > ;DISC=1474
>>>> > 83647;ULABEL=027
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >                                                <
>>>> > >>Build of file "!" failed. (CIERR 279)
>>>> >
>>>> >   <<
>>>> >
>>>> > The +279 is the code returned when the file already exists in
>>>> > the temp domain.
>>>> >
>>>> > Can anyone tell me why this isn't working in the POSiX area
>>>> > but works fine
>>>> > in the MPE area?
>>>> >
>>>> > Something I am doing wrong, I know but I am clueless as to
>>>> > what my error
>>>> > is........
>>>> >
>>>> > TIA,
>>>> > Brian.
>>>> >
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