Craig, take your medicine! People are still taking your bait, to wit Art
wrote:
> So, please ... Craig's concern is well founded IF (my caps) colleges
are now giving
> out CS credits for introducing students to the most very basic concepts of
> Word, Excel and PowerPoint! Especially, since this is a fully accredited
> University!
see the big IF (my caps)?
the whole point of shooting down Craig's balloon is that it's taking you on
a wild goose chase, Art.
The college in question has its "intro to ms office" class taught by the
Computer Science department, so the course gets a CS prefix. As Duane
pointed out, said college does not give "CS credits" for this course. Of
course you could have checked it out yourself, but you trusted Craig's line
of thought, which you trusted he based on facts, when all he was really
doing was blathering. But that's all forgiven, as Craig, knickers knotted,
declared
>"Don't get your knickers in in a knot Duane. No more blathering will be
my New Years resolution.
>
>Cheers,
>
>-Craig
>
>As for me, CS101 was Fortran 66, no it was not 1966 (I am not that old), it
was the ANSI standard >66."
well there's always next year ;-)
cheers
(the other) Tracy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of
> Bahrs, Art
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [HP3000-L] OT: Overview of Definitions of Comp Sci was: I
remember
> CS 101 a little differently
>
> Hi Everyone :)
> Ok... I read through the original thread this weekend on my PDA...
> (securely accessing my email btw!)
>
> First ... I just confirmed that the course being touted as 'Computer
> Science 101' isn't! ... This course is not computer science by any
> definition of the word! This course is merely an introduction to Business
> Computing Tools ... or what should be a 'BA101' type course...
>
> I will state this emphatically because I wrote and taught such a course
> back in 1999-2001 at the Oregon Military Academy for members and employees
of
> the Oregon Army & Air National Guards. My course was how to use
Spreadsheets
> (Excel), Word Processors (Word), and how to prepare Power Point
> Presentations. I also had 2 hours covering History of the Computer,
Computer
> Components and Terminology. The course was a total of 18 hours of
> instruction and 8 hours of labs.
>
> I would say that for a class to be labeled as 'Computer Science 101',
it
> would have to have a curriculum similar to the 'Intro to Computers' that I
> took back in Winter Term (Jan-Mar) of 1983 at Northwest Nazarene College
> (Taught by Fred Dautermann - now teaching at Texas Tech I think). This
class
> covered the history of computing devices and programming techniques which
> were reinforced in the associated lab class where we programmed in BASIC
on
> the college's academic HP 3000 Series 44....
>
> So, please ... Craig's concern is well founded if colleges are now
giving
> out CS credits for introducing students to the most very basic concepts of
> Word, Excel and PowerPoint! Especially, since this is a fully accredited
> University!
>
> Art "putting away the soapbox for a wee bit hehehe" Bahrs
>
> Art Bahrs, CISSP
> Security Engineer (Oregon Region)
> (503) 216-2722
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of
> Craig Lalley
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: OT: I remember CS 101 a little differently
>
> --- On Sat, 1/15/11, Duane Percox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Shame to you for blathering out loud without gathering all the facts...
>
>
> Ah yes, I am so shamed. Shame on me for blathering on the 3000-L. We
are
> much too high brow for a discussion of CS101. Or whether MS Office 2007
is
> the best choice. Most places I know are still using Office 2003. What
> about Open Office? It is free and compatible. Let's not forget Mac OSX
> Pages. Learning today is all about specialization.
>
> I would recommend Duane be given the job of censoring all posts prior to
> posting, just to make sure all the facts have been gathered. However
Duane
> is not capable of keeping the OT: postings, off-topic. (Shame on you
Duane)
>
> Don't get your knickers in in a knot Duane. No more blathering will be
my
> New Years resolution.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Craig
>
> As for me, CS101 was Fortran 66, no it was not 1966 (I am not that old),
it
> was the ANSI standard 66.
>
>
>
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