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Charles Finley <[log in to unmask]>
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Charles Finley <[log in to unmask]>
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People have been porting MPE applications to mostly UNIX platforms on a
fairly consistent basis for at least 10 years.  There have been several
successful efforts.  Those have been, to a large extent, done by Independent
Software Vendors (ISV's).  However, several end-users and companies that
specialize in porting applications have done it.

We receintly assisted one of HP's largest ISV's in porting 4Million lines of
Fortan and C code to HP-UX.  We originally thought that we would have to do
the toolset mostly from scratch.  However, fortunately, we found various
software pieces we could license (including HP Eloquence) that made the job
feasable, sucessful and afordable for the customer.

My point, and I do have one, is that it is possible today to run MPE
applications on UNIX and on UNIX-like environments on Windows.  (It is
almost simple to run COBOL/VPLUS/IMAGE applications on UNIX or Linux with
certain software that we have licensed from its developer.)  This includes
databases, flat-files, KSAM files, Message files, screens including VPlus,
the shell, job control, spooling, etc.  Actually running MPE on an Intel
architecture machine would require another type of emulation layer and, of
course, would require HP permission.  This is something that is not likely
to come.

Charles Finley
Transformix
(760) 736-7001


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Clogg" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: MPE on a PC ??


> I believe Andreas simply edited the text, replacing all occurrences of
> "Unix" with "HP-MPE".  There is no version of MPE for 386/486 processors.
> When the IA-64 processors makes their way into the HP3000 product line, it
> is conceivable that a PC with an Itanium or McKinley processor could run
> MPE.  I expect HP will devise some method to prevent that, however.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stoops, Peter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: MPE: MPE on a PC ??
>
>
> In thread "a bit OT: Virus on HP-MPE ?!" by Andreas Schmidt, I read the
> following :
>
> ...
>   [ this does not apply ...:  Another example is in the case of a 386/486
> PC system running HP-MPE, since this system is still vulnerable to
> infection by MBR infectors such as Stoned and Michelangelo, which are
> operating system independent. (Note that an infection on such a HP-MPE PC
> system would probably result in disabling the HP-MPE disk partition(s)
from
> booting.) ]
> ...
>
> Now this caught my interest. Is this really possible? Run MPE on a PC? If
> so, does someone on the list know how to proceed for installation? I would
> definitely want to try, and see how it performs, what the possibilities
are?
> I'm already imagining, Turbo Image on a PC .... Well, it gives me a few
> ideas:-)
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Peter Stoops
> Cheops technology
>
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> http://www.cheops.be
> http://www.cheops.fr
>
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