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Doesn't everyone know that vstore is a RIP-OFF. They let you set up
your own store then steal your customers. You would be better off with
an affiliate program.

The problem is that they post their vstore logo all over 'your' site
(which is ok within itself) and when 'your' customer goes to
vstore.com...guess what? It's not just for customer service...it's
designed to STEAL your customers....think about it, if they were on the
vtailers side dont you think they would have a different site for the
vtailer to log in and make vstore.com ONLY for the cunsumer...What a
RIP-OFF!!! They think they're so slick and all you SUCKERS keep falling
for it. ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN COULD SEE RIGHT THROUGH THEIR
SCAM....vSUCKERS!!!

http://www.boycottvstore.com/



In article <[log in to unmask]>,
  Patrick Santucci <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Greg Stigers continues to 'wine':
>
> > You know, that's really not the part of the email I hoped to see
> > responses to.
>
> Okay, in the interest of stopping all further whines and groans, I'll
> share my experience with backups and off-site (hyphen-aided) storage.
>
> Our corporate policy dictates essentially what Greg quoted as HP's
> recommendation. In practice, however, we have interpreted "a copy of
the
> backup must be stored off-site" to mean that the *one* "copy" that we
have
> is stored off-site. This satisfies the off-site requirement, and since
> there is no corporate requirement to store tapes *on*-site, there's
really
> no justification for doing so. At least, none worth losing your data
for.
>
> That doesn't mean we don't bring tapes back on-site for restores; we
do.
> But we're not allowed to keep them on-site overnight. (Presumably the
> night air is bad for the tapes if they're not safely in bed at the
storage
> facility. :-) Our storage company makes two daily runs to pick up
tapes
> from us, and if we need one or more brought back we -- after filling
out
> the requisite paperwork, of course -- just have them bring what we
need
> when they make their next run.
>
> Concerning X-OVER (which Barry <plug>ed), we bought it and love it. We
> don't use it to make copies of our regular backups, but it *has*
allowed
> us to reduce our off-site storage costs considerably: we have many old
> quarterly and yearly backups which are labeled as "keep forever"
or "keep
> 10 years." Most of these are full system backups which originally used
> over 30 reels of 2400 ft mag tape. We have successfully X-OVER'd
several
> of these backups from 30+ reels to 1 DLT, verified them with VSTORE,
> restored and tested several of them on our crash'n'burn box. We'll
> eventually convert all of them. What can I say but it works as
advertised.
> (Disclaimer: not selling X-OVER, just a very happy customer. YMMV.)
>
> Patrick
> --
> Patrick Santucci
> Technical Services Analyst
> Seabury & Smith, Inc.
>
>


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