--- Reid Baxter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I can apply your thoughts to the issue regarding older drives in
> Jamaica enclosures ( JBOD), but certainly not in RAID enclosures as 
> mine are (as I am protected against the very 'looming disaster' 
> scenario you illustrate).

i didn't say anything about raid either.  while it's my personal
preference (and mod20's are way cheap!) i know not everyone is in a
position to go there.

> Your statement regarding drives that are under 36 Gb may be shared by
> some,

it was more an indication of how old the drive is.  4gb and 9gb drives,
at this point, are quite old....

> but for those who cannot afford RAID enclosures, building a system
> using 36 or 72 Gb drives might seem as though you were condoning the 
> one volume set architecture that would compound a disc loss that you 
> mention.

i think the unfortunate reality is many (to most?) mpe system run off a
single volume.  losing your sole 9gb drive would be no different than
losing your only 32gb drive...

> Regarding justification, it would appear that you have a great
> relationship with your purchasing department as I would assume that 
> most of us have a  hell of a time justifying expenditures for 
> hardware that has only recently been given a life expectancy 
> extension of 2 more years. 

actually, i've got the same problem.  that i'm allowed to spend 2k is a
big deal.  as a rule, there is no mpe (hardware) budget (other than
maintenance).

> I would venture to state that your comments emulate from a large
> (HP3000) server farm perspective and not the small business, Mom and 
> Pop homesteaders that your response was targeting.

it's the homesteaders that worry me the most.

> For them I would have them consider older 'protected' technologies
> that offer the three important attributes, 1) Protection 
> (redundancy ), 2). Supportability and 3). Value. For us that equated 
> to an Autoraid 12h as it offers all three to my current employer.

i'll add -- 4) what is your business worth?  and perhaps -- 5) is your
resume up-to-date?

> Great, now I've gone and used up all my parentheses...........

(i buy mine at costco (although i think their prices for capital
letters is excessive))   :-)     - d

Donna Garverick, HP-CSA   Sr. System Programmer
dgarverick -at- longs -dot- com
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