Carol,

There is certainly no need to stay away.  The HP3000-l never had a requirement for membership that I am aware of.

The first rule of technology is that it changes.  Not necessarily for the better, the heard mentality has a tendency to take control.  Management has a insatiable need for new buzz words.

Underlying it all is business and the work still needs to be done.

I was working on a HP3000 computer that did 275,000 orders per day.  The company spent 10's of MILLIONS of dollars to convert the application to Oracle on Sun hardware.  

5 years into the conversion the development team was sooooo proud, they sent out an e-mail proclaiming they were able to process 10,000 orders in a day. 

The production operators, manager and myself looked at each other and smiled.  Then the manager quietly stated, the HP3000 completed 10,000 while we were at lunch.

I have lived through so many war stories.... Maybe Paul has an idea with that book.  :-)

-Craig






--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Carol Darnell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Carol Darnell <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: OT: More layoffs
> To: "HP3000 List" <[log in to unmask]>, "Craig Lalley" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 9:30 AM
> I've stayed away now for two years, licking my wounds
> and adjusting to early 
> retirement.  I miss so many of you.. but was browsing the
> archives briefly and 
> noticed this.  It started me wondering how many of us are
> finding today's IT 
> world so foreign  as to make it untenable.  I've
> chatted with several other 'old-
> timers' who find themselves shaking their heads in
> dismay - clean, efficient, 
> flexible solutions, and those who think in those terms when
> designing them, 
> appear to be a dying breed.  
> 
> Think I'll do a bit more reading - it's hard to
> turn your back and walk away.

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