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Dennis,

        Have you tried logging on as MANAGER.SYS and purging it?  I noticed your
earlier example implied OPERATOR.SYS.  The error message you are getting can
be caused by file access or the lack of capabilities of the current user.

[3]/SYS/PUB>help cierr384
MESSAGE   UNABLE TO PURGE FILE !. (CIERR 384)

CAUSE     The file you specified is either being used, or you do not
          have the appropriate capabilities to purge it.

ACTION    Check the output of LISTF command to see if the file is
          being used.  If not, check to see if you currently have the
          appropriate capabilities to purge the file.  Consult with
          your account manager or system manager.

Thanx,
  Jonathan (Jon) M. Backus, MPE-CSM ~ President
  Tech Group ~ 15 Catawba Place ~ Hagerstown, MD ~ 21742-6515
  Email: [log in to unmask] ~ AIM: JMBackus
  Vmail: 301.988.0614 ~ Fmail: 301.714.1854
  Web: www.TechGroupMD.com


-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Gaunt, Dennis x5324
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:21 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Stuck Files


listf eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,2
ACCOUNT=  AIHBETA     GROUP=  DATA

FILENAME  CODE  ------------LOGICAL RECORD-----------  ----SPACE----
                  SIZE  TYP        EOF      LIMIT R/B  SECTORS #X MX

ECLXCOPY          200B  FAK          0    1150000  20    98832 18  *

listf eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,9
********************
FILE: ECLXCOPY.DATA.AIHBETA
0 Accessors

This file was created by a batch file, that one of our programmers made.
I'm still a little sketchy as to its use, but he explains that this program
is no longer used.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shahan, Ray [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:08 PM
> To:   'Gaunt, Dennis x5324'; [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      RE: Stuck Files
>
> Do a LISTF,2 and ,9 on the file.
>
> Send the results of the 2 LISTF command back to this list, so we can see
> what you got.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Gaunt, Dennis x5324 [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent:       Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:55 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:    Re: Stuck Files
> >
> > (Run as SM)
> >
> > OPERATOR.SYS:purge eclxcopy.data.aihbeta
> > END OF FILE  (FSERR 0)
> > Unable to purge file "ECLXCOPY.DATA.AIHBETA". (CIERR 384)
> >
> > The file has no accessories, and has not been accessed since its
> creation
> > almost a year ago.  As a side note the file has no records but is taking
> > up
> > 98832 Sectors.  Thats a lot of nothing...
> > I have also tried to Store this file to Null, with a purge, and it
> failed
> > with same errors.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Berkowitz [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:08 PM
> > > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject:      Re: [HP3000-L] Stuck Files
> > >
> > > Dennis Gaunt writes
> > >
> > > I'm new to the HP3000 scene and I'm still learning the ropes.  Does
> > anyone
> > > out there know how to purge a file that is "stuck open"  it has no
> > > processes
> > > attached and no sessions associated with it, yet when I attempt to
> purge
> > > it,
> > > the file is "In use".  Can someone give me a clue or perhaps some
> > insight
> > > into something I am missing?
> > >  Thanks,
> > >  Dennis Gaunt, MIS
> > >  Community Care of Oklahoma
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > Do the following first
> > > :LISTFILE filename,9
> > > See if anyone has the file open
> > > If no one does, then
> > > :PURGE filename
> > > report the exact message back to the list if it doesn't purge
> > >
> > > Mike Berkowitz
> > > Guess? Inc.
> > >
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