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Tom Brandt <[log in to unmask]>
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Tom Brandt <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 6 Feb 2002 17:17:29 -0500
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Michael (and every one else),

I should have explained better what I was after, as most responses told me
what I already know about how to use nslookup, ping, tracert, etc. The
problem is with a particular user looking at a page from a site which was
moved from one server to another, but a copy still exists on the old
server. The question was, is the browser getting the page from the new
server, the old server, local cache, proxy cache? Does IE resolves names as
you would expect? Does IE use a DNS cache, which might give a result
different than what nslookup would give?

I know where the browser should be getting the page from, the question is,
is it really getting it from the server it should?

The answer appears to be that you can't know for sure without making sure
that dns is configured correctly on the machine in question and restarting it.

At 03:04 PM 2/6/2002 -0600, Michael L Gueterman wrote:
>Tom,
>
>   In IE, you can right click with the mouse on a particular object
>and select properties.  It will show you both the URL (not the IP
>though) from whence it came along with some dates.  I "believe"
>(although I've not researched it enough to bet any money on it) that
>the dates will be those that the browser loaded the item.  So, if you
>have a date earlier than today's, that would represent that the item
>was actually retrieved from the browser cache.  I'm not sure if that
>is good enough for what your looking for (i.e. it won't say whether it
>was placed into the cache earlier today, or during this particular
>viewing).  Another thing to keep in mind is that the browser can render
>the page with contents from multiple IPs (for example load balancing
>within a site), or even from totally different sites.
>
>Regards,
>Michael L Gueterman
>Easy Does It Technologies LLC
>http://www.editcorp.com
>voice: 888.858.EDIT or 573.368.5478
>fax:   573.368.5479
>--
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
>Behalf Of Tom Brandt
>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 2:43 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Web site IP address
>
>
>I know how to run ping, nslookup, tracert and all that, but running that
>stuff does not necessarily tell you what IE is looking at any given time.
>
>On a Win2K machine I played with, nslookup resolved a URL using the
>configured nameserver, and skipped the hosts file. tracert and ping looked
>at the hosts file first, then the nameserver. IE, though, may be getting a
>particular page from a local cache or a proxy cach, and it is unclear to me
>how to tell what IE is doing at a particular time.
>
>At 03:31 PM 2/6/2002 -0500, James Clark,Florida wrote:
> >Sure, run the command prompt and ping the address. Be sure not to include
> >all the stuff beyond the first / and this will tell you the main address.
> >But remember many large sites have load balancers and thus the exact
>address
> >may be hid from you or the address you get is another machine in the pool.
> >After ping'ing the address is displayed within the [] following the name of
> >the ping.
> >
> >
> >I am using IE 5.5. Is there a way to find out what the IP address is of the
> >page the web browser is currently displaying?
> >
>
>--------------------------------
>Tom Brandt
>Northtech Systems, Inc.
>313 N. 1st Street
>Ann Arbor, MI 48103
>http://www.northtech.com/
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Tom Brandt
Northtech Systems, Inc.
313 N. 1st Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
http://www.northtech.com/

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