IT3 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR-R <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
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>  Predicated upon the presumption that the US military forces will
> taken decisive and punitive action against the invading forces to the US,
it
> is the very use of such military force which protects the freedom of those
> NOT in favor of using US military forces for such purposes to have the
> freedom to object to it at all. How ironic, and paradoxical that is!

Those who are not in favour of such action could very well argue that the
action would endanger such freedom, not protect it.

I share the fear of many that the horror of the evil attacks on Tuesday will
blind our leaders to reason.  Military action with clear and achievable
goals is justifiable.  Lashing out at whole countries suspected of
sympathising with the attackers is not because it will only make the problem
worse.   The USA and closely allied countries such as the UK should spend at
least as much energy as they do on military action, on looking at themselves
to see what they may have done to provoke such hatred.  These attacks cannot
be justified by any moral criteria but that does not mean that they are
totally unprovoked.  The USA and allies have for a long time had habits such
as taking military action in defiance of UN resolutions, tearing up
international treaties which don't suit them, or even of training and/or
funding guerrilla/terrorist groups (apparently including Osama bin Laden
himself in the 80s).  These are just a few examples of actions which some
see as imperialist and in extreme cases lead to the hatred of us as we have
just seen.

>             We have come to a time where we must combat terrorists in
> manners they understand. I mean in a manner more than killing them, or
> putting them in jail. We need to do things to disgrace these terrorists,
and
> disgrace them on their terms, not ours. I am actually in favor of
capturing
> Osama bin Ladin prior to his being purged from this earth. We must device
> methodologies of punishment, which far exceed our normative thinking for
the
> US criminal element. For example, killing bin Ladin is not good enough. We
> must find out what it is that will disgrace and disturb his element and do
> that. Just as a US citizen would find it inhumane to punish a murderer by
> tieing his body to the back of a truck and dragging him around until
> complete dismemberment has taken place, we must find those things which
> bring his kind similar disgust, and then take those actions against him
once
> caught. Since I am Jewish, I well understand the hatred he has for the
Jews
> and the State of Israel. I think perhaps we ought tatoo a Star of David on
> his chest, and let him go to jail with that, or worse yet be burried with
> it. Perhaps feeding his dead body to sharks or some other nasty and
> insulting action to depict to his people what our desire and resolve is
with
> respect to such dastardly people.

Just lock them up for life, if they can be caught.  What you suggest above
can only make the problem worse by encouraging others to 'avenge the
martyrs'.

--
Chris Dunlop
CIS, ITCS, UEA, Norwich.
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