Fair point I should have used a better nursery rhyme or kids story.  On
reflection I guess Mary Poppins or Willy Wonker would have been better
choices.  I was just trying to show how ludicrous it is to compare some very
vague fable with a detailed intelligent scientific principal.  It's like
comparing a one page pamphlet with the works of Shakespeare.

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A friend of mine sent this link to me, which claims to prove that evolution
due to environmental changes does indeed take place:

http://www.txtwriter.com/Bookshelf/bookreviews/BeakoFinch.html


----

On a lighter note, I don't know if this is old, but I have only just
received it and I thought some others might like it:


top ten signs of fundamentalist Christians

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other
religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people
evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune
God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to
Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination
of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception
of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival
sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed
to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking
in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered
prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think
that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about
the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a
Christian.



NINE WORLD RELIGIONS SIMPLIFIED

Taoism    Shit happens!
Confucianism    Confucius says: "Shit happens"
Buddhism    If shit happens, it really isn't shit!
Zen    What is the sound of shit happening?
Hinduism    This shit happened before!
Islam    If shit happens, it's the will of Allah!
Protestantism    Let shit happen to someone else!
Catholicism    If shit happens, you deserved it!
Judaism    Why does shit always happen to us?






-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Brown [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 04 May 2005 16:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Evolution, Question 2


In message <BB6102FDE2BE0F489C1C6171D8C9B7D20B233918@MAILSRV-1>, Richard
Barker <[log in to unmask]> writes
>People in Utah want Newton's teachings on gravity be qualified as only one
>possible theory and students should get a chance to hear other possible
>points of view in this area of science.
>
>Parents in the area are demanding the school board give pupils the chance
to
>hear the 'Jack and Jill' theory as well, which many believe contradicts
>Newton's work.
>
>The idea that Jack and Jill were able to defy gravity in some way is proof
>to many that indeed Newton's idea's should be questioned and should not be
>taught as fact.

'Jack fell down, and broke his crown
And Jill came tumbling after'.

Is someone suggesting that the force acting on them here was other than
gravity?

Of course, if their mission *had* succeeded, they would have been able
to spin the pail and watch the water in it, as Newton advised, and
become even more confused about the nature and operation of gravity...
--
Roy Brown        'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
Kelmscott Ltd     useful, or believe to be beautiful'  William Morris

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