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September 2001, Week 4

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Sletten Kenneth W KPWA <[log in to unmask]>
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Sletten Kenneth W KPWA <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:50:16 -0700
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Earlier today Gavin did the external spec thing for :SHUTDOWN:

> > Response 1: Make it available to only MANAGER.SYS, not also to
> >             OPERATOR.SYS.
>
> Nonsense.
> ..............
> Here's the :HELP catalog entry:
>
>       SHUTDOWN {SYSTEM | <entityname>}
>
>              [;HALT]
>              [;RESTART]
>              [;EXIT]
>              [;DELAY=<timespec>]
>              [;WARN=<warningtext>]
>              [;WAIT

Bruce added the  ";CANCEL" footnote.

For people worried about  :SHUTDOWN risks, Steve D. pointed out
the obvious:

> If you have malicious "knowledgeable users" and "crackers" that
> have access to your system console, you have bigger problems
> than can be helped by putting restrictions on a shutdown command.

Gavin also added a good "risks" suffix...


My $0.50:  Go with Gavin's design as the external spec;  with the
addition of Bruce's ";CANCEL".  IMO Gavin has captured the essence
of MPE "look and feel" very well.  While in one sense it wouldn't hurt
to go thru an Interex "voting cycle" on :SHUTDOWN details, do we
*really* have to spend the time it will take to allow a "decent interval"
for debate and then voting ??...   I would respectfully say I think not.
There is no supported way to do the above AT ALL right now....  Let's
try not to delay delivery of same....

Ken Sletten

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