Gary Nolan wrote:
>
> Hi,
> We had a tape problem like this a few times and by putting in a good tape
> and putting the drive on line the 3000 then straightned it's self out.
This has also worked for me in the past. Remounting a good tape and being
patient with the process. It will fix itself. store seems to just waiting
for a good tape to be mount.
Richard G.
>
> Hope it works for you.
>
> Also I agree with your complaint about aborting hung sessions. I hope HP is
> listening too.
>
> Gary Nolan
> Sydney Steel Corporation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Madigan <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 2:10 PM
> Subject: Aborting a session (once again!)
>
> X-no-Archive:yes
>
> Greetings from SE Pennsylvania!
>
> I have a real problem on our HP-3000 (aren't Mondays great for having
> problems?). ;<)
>
> Consider the following scenario which is currently happening. A session was
> performing a :VSTORE which had a bad NM :STORE label on it. I hit BREAK,
> followed by :ABORT and then things really got out of hand. I am unable to
> :ABORTIO on the tape drive (NO I/O TO ABORT); of course, I cannot :ABORTJOB
> on
> the session; NSCONTROL KILLSESS= doesn't do a darn thing. Here is the
> current
> status of things:
>
> [MANAGER.SYS]/SYS/PUB> showjob #s237
>
> JOBNUM STATE IPRI JIN JLIST INTRODUCED JOB NAME
>
> #S237 EXEC 52 52 MON 9:22A TMADIGAN,MANAGER.SYS
>
> JOBFENCE= 0; JLIMIT= 20; SLIMIT= 100
>
> [MANAGER.SYS]/SYS/PUB> showproc job=#s237
> No processes matched any specification. (CIERR 11504)
> [mommy] [MANAGER.SYS]/SYS/PUB> showdev 7
> LDEV AVAIL OWNERSHIP VOLID DEN ASSOCIATION
>
> 7 UNAVAIL #S237: 1 FILES (Nolabel) 1600
> [MANAGER.SYS]/SYS/PUB>
>
> The session doesn't have any processes associated with it; yet, it "owns"
> LDEV
> 7. GLANCE/iX shows a process 362 associated with the session which is
> eating
> the CPU alive unless I move it to a priority of 255. Something inconsistent
> is happening with the system (:SHOWPROC tells me that there are no
> processes;
> however, GLANCE/iX does show one process which I wish the hell I could get
> rid
> of).
>
> I called 9-1-1 (HPRC) and was given the famous corporate line: reboot the
> system.
>
> <boiling rage mode>
>
> When is HP going to get off its backside and provide system managers with a
> way to get rid of A SINGLE SESSION without killing the whole system??? I'm
> sure that, by reading recent posts to this group, I'm not the only person
> having this particular problem. <shouting> I EXPECT BETTER FROM AN
> HP-3000!!!
> </shouting> If I want practice in rebooting a computer, I'll go out and buy
> an el-cheapo PC, load it with any version of Windows and reboot 'til my
> heart's content. We use an HP-3000 because it is SUPPOSED to be a
> transaction-processing, PRODUCTION system. Implied with a "PRODUCTION"
> status
> is that the system should not go down except for the most catastrophic
> reasons
> (e.g. a disk drive went South; the processor blew up, etc.). A single hung
> session IMHO does not qualify as a catastrophic reason. When is HP going to
> recognize the following very simple equations:
>
> reboot <> production
> reboot = lost time, lost production, etc.
>
> </boiling rage mode>
>
> Thanks to everyone in this community for allowing me, once again, to get
> this
> off my chest. Any suggestions, short of rebooting the system, for solving
> this problem would be most appreciated!!
>
> Tom Madigan
> SE Pennsylvania
>
> "My opinions are strictly my own. Who else would want 'em?"
>
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