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joe andress <[log in to unmask]>
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joe andress <[log in to unmask]>
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None one has bothered to answer the actual question, rather they side step
the question. Maybe they can't answer the question as stated because the
statement is true and they don't want to acknowledge the true.

> It is not Iraq that has weapons of mass destruction and uses them against
> its neighbors. It is the United States.

Wow, I dont remember any mushroom clouds over any of the counties stated. I
also don't remember reading about any mass occurances of gas attacks or
utilization. I don't remember reading about any large increase in diseases
either.

Must be a new stealth WMD.


>Compare the two nations. How many nations has Iraq invaded under its
> present leadership?
>
> Answer: Two. First Iran, with the eager backing of the United States,
which
> supplied it with chemical and biological weapons (and now proposes to use
> the same weapons to attack Iraq for using chemical and biological weapons
> of mass destruction). Second, Kuwait, which was stealing Iraqi oil, and
> anyway, the claim that it is a part of Iraq is legitimate; Kuwait, Iraq
and
> Saudi Arabia were all created arbitrarily by the oil companies (as was
> Saudi Arabia).
>

> Then, how many countries has America invaded and used weapons of mass
> destruction against during the same time period.
>
Again somewhat of a incorrect statement. The leadership of Iraq has been
constant under one leader. Over the period of time outlined 1980's - 2003,
the USA has had 4 leader, the current one who has not engaged any country in
true aggressive military action (at the moment, unless u count the air
assualts against the Iraq radar and related military targets who are
engaging in aggressive actions in direct vilolation of the agreement that
Iraq signed).  I also cast some questions over the Gulf Conflict of 2001 as
Iraq was the assaulting country and I somewhat content that the USA and
other countries were reacting in a defensive manner (sometimes the best
defense is an offense), but I will give that one to you.
As for the others, they were hardly invasion of the size or purpose of Iraq.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Baier" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT : US uses Indian 'threat' to force Pak support on
Iraq


> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:45:14 -0500, Brice Yokem <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Tim asks:
> >
> >> Again I ask, name one country that spends more on these two diseases
than
> >> the US
> >
> >As it's written, the question is misphrased. There are very few countries
> in
> >the world with larger populations than the US, and certainly none that
come
> >close to its economic size, thus the question has to be normalized as
> either
> >a matter of spending per capita or as percentage of GDP. In either case,
> >there are dozens of countries that invest more than does the US.
> >
> >.........
> >
> >Come on Wirt!  Now you are telling Tim what question he can ask?
> >Or how he is allowed to ask them?
> >
> >His grammar is acceptable, and that is the end of it.  The answer is
> >'No one spends more than the USA on this'.  I want to see you post
> >that answer, can you?
> >
>
> Brice,
> then you must also accept such comparisons.
> Not my opinion but somebody's comparision.
> Compare apples with apples and with fruit-salad.
>
>
> Compare the two nations. How many nations has Iraq invaded under its
> present leadership?
>
> Answer: Two. First Iran, with the eager backing of the United States,
which
> supplied it with chemical and biological weapons (and now proposes to use
> the same weapons to attack Iraq for using chemical and biological weapons
> of mass destruction). Second, Kuwait, which was stealing Iraqi oil, and
> anyway, the claim that it is a part of Iraq is legitimate; Kuwait, Iraq
and
> Saudi Arabia were all created arbitrarily by the oil companies (as was
> Saudi Arabia).
>
> Then, how many countries has America invaded and used weapons of mass
> destruction against during the same time period.
>
> Answer: Try 13. Grenada 1983, Lebanon 1983, 1984 (both Lebanese and Syrian
> targets), Libya 1986, El Salvador 1980s, Nicaragua 1980s, Iran 1987,
Panama
> 1989, Iraq 1991-2000, Somalia 1993, Bosnia 1994, 1995, Sudan 1998,
> Afghanistan 1998, Yugoslavia 1999. (Thanks to William Blum, "Rogue
State.")
>
> It is not Iraq that has weapons of mass destruction and uses them against
> its neighbors. It is the United States.
>
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