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Patrick Santucci <[log in to unmask]>
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Patrick Santucci <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:29:36 -0500
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Stan & Jim's conversation:
>
> Hi,
>
> Still has "=" (MIME stuff):
>
> It may have to do with you hitting <return> at the end of every line
> instead of letting message wrap?
>
> > Stan says:
> >
> > >You can probably check/uncheck a box that says something like "auto form=
> > at",
> > >if I recall correctly.
> >
> > Well, there is a "radio button" that selects "Reformattable" or "Send As =
> >
> > Shown".  It defaults to reformattable, but for this message I selected =
> >
> > send as shown.  Let's see if it makes any difference.
> >  =
> >
> > Jim
>
> --
> Stan Sieler                                          [log in to unmask]
>                                      http://www.allegro.com/sieler.html

I checked the headers on both e-mail messages from Stan & Jim.  Jim's
says

> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Stan's says

> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

So even though you are both using MIME, you are using different
character sets (US-ASCII vs. ISO-8859-1) and (perhaps more important)
different transfer encoding (quoted-printable vs. 7-bit). I'm no expert,
but I know how to look stuff up <g>, so I went to Alta-Vista and did a
search on "quoted printable" and found a page which has an explanation
</no_plug_intended_because_I_don't_use_their_product>:

http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/helpdesk/Misc/QPNotDecoded-Sndr.html

Titled "Quoted Printable Encoding", it says,

"The three-character codes beginning with "=", like "=E9", are
quoted-printable encoding that didn't get decoded. Quoted-printable
encoding is a way of getting special (i.e., non-US-ASCII) characters
past SMTP, which can't handle them. There's an excellent description of
quoted-printable encoding and how it's used in the "MIME and Mapping"
appendix of the [Eudora] manual.

"In brief, however, what happened here is: either your recipient's mail
program didn't do the decoding properly, or a mail server between you
and the recipient mangled the headers of the message so that Eudora
couldn't decode it. You should turn off quoted-printable encoding when
you send messages to that recipient. On the Macintosh,you can turn this
off by un-checking the QP icon at the top of the message before you send
it. On Windows Eudora, you can click the QP button at the top of the
message, so that it's not pushed in anymore."

My suspicion is that Stan's mail server can't handle Jim's quoted
printable text.  I occasionally get e-mail at home that's been
improperly translated by my ISP. I can tell because in addition to "="
all over the message, the header says "X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit
to quoted-printable by dfw-ix16.(ISP-name-removed).com id MAA27128" - so
it's happening before it gets to my pop server!

Hope this gives you a place to start looking.

Patrick
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Patrick Santucci
Technical Services Systems Programmer
Kirke-Van Orsdel, Inc.
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