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Larry Simonsen <[log in to unmask]>
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[log in to unmask][log in to unmask], 4 Sep 2002 17:59:18 -0400596_iso-8859-1 > While the average score for the accounting test was 32
> percent, that question on retained earnings undistributed
> earnings that have not been paid out to stockholders or
> transferred to a surplus account was answered correctly by
> fewer than 20 percent.

At the risk of stating the completely obvious, assuming that testees were
presented with five choices instead of the usual four, that is still worse
than the results we might expect if retained earnings had not even been
discussed, and attendees chose their answer at random. [...]47_4Sep200217:59:[log in to unmask]
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it that code is really in there would that not cripple those of us who
upgrade to 7.1 version and beyond?
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John R. Wolff writes:

> Of course, MPE/iX uninhibited would run rings around a similar speed
> HP9000  --  it would be most embarassing for HP to have to admit that
> the obsolete MPE/iX is faster than the modern wonderful HP-UX!  I
> must conclude that it has nothing to do with keeping prices low or
> some technical issue or other altruistic claims.  This is simply a
> mis-guided marketing strategy gone wrong with the goal of getting rid
> of MPE/iX in favor of HP-UX.

Scenario: an Engineer is called into the Boss's office at CSY (perhaps in
the mid- to late 1980s?) and told, "The Company wants to sell more HP-UX,
but jacking up the price on MPE boxes and licenses hasn't helped HP-UX
sales
enough. Marketing says we're making the UX division look bad. We need to
come up with a way to slow down MPE, give the other guys a chance to catch
up performance-wise, relatively speaking. Can you add some extra no-op
cycles or something to MPE?" (Assuming a somewhat PHB here -- no offense
intended to anyone!) Who knows, he may have even reassured the engineer
with, "Don't worry, once HP-UX sales take off we'll be allowed to pull out
the idling code. We'll send out a patch and tell the customers they're
getting a 'performance enhancement,' that'll make everyone happy. We just
need to put it in temporarily. For the good of HP as a whole, you
understand."

Assuming this scenario, if that engineer (or group of engineers) would come
forward and tell his/her/their story, *that* would be the "smoking gun."

Patrick (What did I say about not believing in conspiracies?)

"The truth is out there." - [log in to unmask]
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Patrick Santucci
HP e3000 Systems Administrator
Computer Operations Team Lead

http://cornerstonebrands.com

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