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Guy Avenell <[log in to unmask]>
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Guy Avenell <[log in to unmask]>
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I believe if Isaac Asimov wrote just the forward, we would have a better
understanding of "Why we are here."

Guy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Boyd" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Ohio wants to teach "2001" in 2002 and bey ond


> I'm not sure; my Sanskrit is pretty rusty.  I'm still translating the
> forward, which looks to be written by either Harlan Ellison or Isaac
Asimov.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Avenell [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 1:46 PM
> To: Mark Boyd; [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Ohio wants to teach "2001" in 2002 and
> beyond
>
> Is that the revision that tells how the Sun, and all the heavens, goes
> around the Earth?
>
> Guy Avenell
> www.hptraderonline.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Boyd" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Ohio wants to teach "2001" in 2002 and beyond
>
>
> > You're not trying to tell me that my first edition, leather bound, hand
> > tipped, autographed Bible recently purchased on Ebay may be a fake; are
> you?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Barnes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:25 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Ohio wants to teach "2001" in 2002 and
beyond
> >
> > This reminds me of a newspaper article I read in high school (eon's
ago).
> > The article talked about an 'exciting new discovery' on a lake in Idaho
or
> > Montana.  It was a dug-out Indian.  It was sent to a neighboring
> university
> > for analysis.  Carbon-dating was used to determine that the canoe was
> > several thousand years old.  I guess the article made headlines around
the
> > Northwest.
> >
> > A woman happened to read about this discovery and saw a picture of it in
> her
> > local newspaper.  She went to the university and asked to meet with the
> > professor doing the study.  She showed him a picture of the same canoe
and
> > explained the canoe was made by her son who was in scouting at the time.
> > There were distinct marks on the side of the canoe that validated her
> story.
> > Her son was studying Indian Lore and wanted to build a dug out canoe.
He
> > used some of the methods such as burning and chipping to hollow out the
> log.
> >
> > So much for carbon-dating!
> > Note:
> > I can't remember if the canoe was discovered at a lake in Idaho and
taken
> to
> > a university in Montana or the other way around.  The woman lived in the
> > state where the canoe was discovered.
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
> > read another interesting book on this subject the other month.
> >
> > A theory is something via testing you can either prove or disprove.
> >
> > Since the earth is either billions or ~6000 years old depending on what
> you
> > believe,  No one was around to observe the birth of the earth that is
> still
> > living, and there has been enough change to make most forms of testing
> > questionable (has the decay of various isotopes (carbon) been constant
or
> > variable over 6000 or billions of years ?), the author's premise is what
> > "MODEL" of what we can observe today best matches either evolution or
> > creation.
> >
> > IE does the first and second law of theromdynamics match the evolution
> MODEL
> > or creation MODEL ?
> >
> > Does the finding of dinosaur fossils match an evolution MODEL or
> > creation/flood MODEL ?
> >
> > There was a good 25/30 questions along this line with discussions about
> > beliefs of both camps as it relates.
> >
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