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Joseph Dolliver <[log in to unmask]>
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At your logon, check the UDC's you have set and there may be a clue there as to why your DB files are opened.

HTH

>From: Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: 2008/07/27 Sun PM 07:30:44 EDT
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Turbo Store Question (Problem maybe?)

>>I can't answer for why files that have not been touched made it on the
>partial.  Did you do a listf, -3 to see access dates, modification dates,
>etc... for example if you do a PRINT ;SEARCH within MPEX without the
>KEEPAMDATES parameter, it may change the access dates.
>
>
>No one else is accessing my system  at all other than myself.
>
>The last time this database was accessed was at 1:02 this morning which is
>correct.
>
>However, I did not do the full system backup until around 7am.........
>
>The partial backup did not happen until about 1pm....
>
>FILE: SNTINL04.DATABASE.DEV
>
>FILE CODE : -401                FOPTIONS: BINARY,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD
>BLK FACTOR: 1                   CREATOR : MGR.DEV
>REC SIZE: 2816(BYTES)           LOCKWORD: 
>                                GROUP ID: DEV
>BLK SIZE: 2816(BYTES)           SECURITY--READ:    ANY
>EXT SIZE: 319(SECT)                       WRITE:   ANY
>NUM REC: 926                              APPEND:  ANY
>NUM SEC: 10192                            LOCK:    ANY
>NUM EXT: 1                                EXECUTE: ANY
>MAX REC: 926                            **SECURITY IS ON
>MAX EXT: 32                     FLAGS   : NO ACCESSORS
>NUM LABELS: 1                   CREATED : SUN, JUL 10, 2005,  5:09 PM
>MAX LABELS: 1                   MODIFIED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008,  1:02 AM
>DISC DEV #: 2                   ACCESSED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008,  1:02 AM
>                                RESTORED: THU, JUN 12, 2008,  9:49 PM
>                                STATE   : MON, JUL  7, 2008,  6:54 AM
>SEC OFFSET: 0                   LABEL ADDR: $0000005E.$00134420
>UFID      : $056C0002 $1A4DE4A5 $001344D8 $55031832 $0350ED02
>VOLCLASS  : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC
>********************
>FILE: /DEV/DATABASE/SNTINL04.idx
>
>FILE CODE : -412                FOPTIONS: BINARY,FIXED,NOCCTL,KSAMXL
>BLK FACTOR: 170                 OWNER   : MGR.DEV           UID: 139
>REC SIZE: 20(BYTES)             GROUP ID: DEV               GID: 119
>BLK SIZE: 4096(BYTES)           SECURITY--READ:    ANY
>EXT SIZE: 0(SECT)                         WRITE:   ANY
>NUM REC: 373                              APPEND:  ANY
>NUM SEC: 4032                             LOCK:    ANY
>NUM EXT: 2                                EXECUTE: ANY
>MAX REC: 57613                          **SECURITY IS ON
>                                FLAGS   : NO ACCESSORS
>NUM LABELS: 1                   CREATED : WED, JUN 18, 2008,  9:36 PM
>MAX LABELS: 1                   MODIFIED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008,  1:02 AM
>DISC DEV #: 1                   ACCESSED: SUN, JUL 27, 2008,  1:02 AM
>                                RESTORED: WED, JUN 18, 2008,  9:36 PM
>                                STATE   : SUN, JUL 27, 2008, 12:38 AM
>SEC OFFSET: 0                   LABEL ADDR: $00000013.$00134D20
>UFID      : $056C0001 $1A4DE4A5 $00134DD8 $55052448 $04A2CBEA
>VOLCLASS  : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC
>
>
>
>On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:02:53 -0700, Bahrs, Art <[log in to unmask]>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi All :)
>>   I seem to recall some unusual behavior with the online backup durations
>when I had a process or user holding onto things (usually quietly in a
>manner not easily observed)
>>
>>You might want to check who and what is on the process trees?
>>
>>
>>Sent via PDA
>>Thanks
>>Art Bahrs
>>Security Engineer
>>[log in to unmask]
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Craig Lalley <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Sunday, 27 July, 2008 1:25 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: Turbo Store Question (Problem maybe?)
>>
>>Brian,
>>
>>I can't answer for why files that have not been touched made it on the
>partial.  Did you do a listf, -3 to see access dates, modification dates,
>etc... for example if you do a PRINT ;SEARCH within MPEX without the
>KEEPAMDATES parameter, it may change the access dates.
>>
>>However, do yourself a favor, Friends don't let friends use the INTER
>option.  :-)  If the tape is ever corrupt, you have virtually no chance of
>recovering any file.  W/O INTER, you may be able to get everything BUT the
>damaged file.
>>
>>Also, try using MAXTAPEBUF, I have seen it work wonders, usually a 30%
>improvement in speed.
>>
>>-Craig
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Brian Donaldson <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Turbo Store Question (Problem maybe?)
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 2:56 PM
>>> Today, 07/27/2008, I did a full system backup  thus:
>>> 
>>> !STORE
>>> @[log in to unmask]@;*T;SHOW;PROGRESS=15;INTER;STATISTICS;DIRECTORY;&
>>> !ONLINE=START;PARTIALDB;COMPRESS=LOW
>>> 
>>> Worked just fine (I'm just a bit concerned about the
>>> time it takes tho -- 7+
>>> hours)
>>> 
>>> After the backup was done I immediately did a nightly
>>> backup thus --
>>> STORE
>>>
>@[log in to unmask]@;*T;SHOW;PROGRESS=5;DATES>=07/27/2008;INTER;STATISTICS;DIRECTORY;ONLINE=START;PARTIALDB;COMPRESS=LOW
>>> 
>>> This partial backup had a bunch of files on it that
>>> shouldn't have been on
>>> it -- two or three different TurboIMAGE databases that had
>>> not been accessed
>>> since 07/26/2008 or before. 
>>> 
>>> No other users on the box except for me....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can anyone tell me why these files were on this partial
>>> backup?
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> Brian Donaldson.
>>> 
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joseph dolliver
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