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Stan Sieler <[log in to unmask]>
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Stan Sieler <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:09:31 -0800
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Wirt obfuscates:
...
> The rules associated with QCTerm's cut-and-paste are simple: If you are in
> "line modify/modify all" or "local" mode, a carriage return is only
> transmitted to QCTerm's screen if it is there in the clipboard. It makes no
...
> If you in none of those modes, but rather are actively connected to the host,
> the situation is slightly different. The same contents of the clipboard,
> regardless of whether it's a single word, line fragment, a complete line with
> a trailing CR, or multi-line set, where each line terminated with a CR, with
...
> By doing it this way, I can go to a web page, highlight a bit of text of
> interest and press copy (control-C). I can then flip windows, go QCTerm,
> enter an editor, put it into autoadd mode, and then press paste (control-V).
> Every line will then be faithfully entered into the editor, just as if I were
> typing them, each line terminated with a CR, and each line waiting for a DC1
> before transmitting the next. When the paste process comes to an end, I
> simply type "//" to stop the autoadd.
>
> Quite similarly, I can keep a CI script in the clipboard and by merely
> pressing Cntl+V at the CI prompt, I can execute the script, line-by-line,
...

Obfuscates?  Yes.  Wirt's well aware that I'm not discussing pastes of
multiple lines ... which is what all of his examples above are discussing.

The topic, and the bug, is in the handling of a paste of a "partial line".
This, as defined earlier, is a line where the user highlighted a piece
of text not crossing a <return> on the screen.

(BTW, I won't mention how often the majority of the users use local edit mode or
line modify mode...because (a) they don't; and (b) it's not relevant to the
discussion at hand.  (oops, I mentioned it :)

> Obversely, in either mode (local edit or active remote connection), I can
> highlight the text in QCTerm, press Cntl+C to absorb material off of the
> HP3000, and then change windows to either MS Word, Netscape mail, or Notepad,
> and press Cntl+V to paste the clipboarded text, again without any trailing CR
> added, simply because these target products are all obviously text/document
> processors of one sort or another.

Um, you just proved my point: paste of a partial line should not include a
return.   And, the vast majority of the world got it right!

> While this current behavior of QCTerm is not written in stone, I find it so
> nice and so pleasant and efficient to use that I would recommend that you
> give it a fair try. After that, your comments would be sincerely appreciated.

Wirt, you didn't discuss the pros of no-return-paste enough to even say
you gave it short shrift.

You just don't get it.

Wirt...do the right thing: fix it.  Fix it now.

Just do it!

Stan (yes, I'm annoyed at having to waste my time trying to getting something
      so glaringly obviously broken fixed! .. and I've been trying for
      nigh onto a year) Sieler



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