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EPA 2, NASA 0.

Denys

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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of William L. Brandt
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Fun space shuttle facts!

Hi Jerry - man the planes you are talking of are ancient in the relative
scheme of things - don't know why a B52 or A-10 would be considered so
secret - we were talking about the F117 itself now probably nearly 20 years
old -

the B-52 is known affectionately by its pilots, some of whom had
grandfathers flying them - as "BUFF" - which - depending on the company
means "Big Ugly Fat Fellow" ;-)

BTW heard something interesting about the shuttle and the foam problem - it
was a mystery to me since I don't remember the problem of foam falling off
in years past -
It seems for most of its life freon was used as an agent to attach the foam
to the fuel tank - and when the EPA outlawed freon the substitutes that they
are using aren't working as well...


Bill

Jerry asked:

craft?  (I've lost track of this in catching-up with e-mails...)
>
> About a year ago I was on a special tour of Barksdale AFB, where the
> majority of the
> remaining B-52 fleet is maintained (the other part is in South Dakota ).
> In talking with
> the former pilot he indicated that I could take all the pictures I wanted
> except of the
> rear part of the plane.  He explained that using a picture of the tail
> radar one could
> determine a lot about the signature/etc. of the planes and their
> radio/radar capabilities.
>
> And yes, painted on the floor in the hanger were red lines and inside of
> the lines was
> also painted that use of deadly force would be used to remove anyone
> deemed
> unauthorized within that perimeter.  And there were plenty of armed
> personnel around, so
> I kept close to the pilot....
>
> When we drove to the 'Warthogs'  I was not permitted out of the vehicle.
> I was told that
> although I could see no one, if I were to exit the vehicle I could maybe
> take 5 steps if
> I hurried...
>
>

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