In <d000000000000000@MHS> [log in to unmask] writes:

> I also love the Local Filing Cabinet in addition to the Server Filing
> Cabinet. Simply drag & drop messages or complete folders to get them
> from PC to 3000 or vice versa.
>
> Does anybody know if something similar is possible with POP Clients?

The POP protocol has no facility for control (or direct access to) host-
based "folders". To a POP client, all mail resides in one host-based
folder, and can only be filed locally (either by downloading messages -by
setting the don't leave mail on server flag in your client, or with modern
pop clients that support the UIDL command extension in POP, messages on
the host can be referred to from folders on the client).

Other limitations of POP (version 2 and 3) include lack of access to host-
based message-store search facilities (searching can only be done on
messages that have been downloaded to the client); and if you choose to
not leave messages on the server, moving to another PC and accessing your
mail can be a bit clumsy.

> Why do I ask? Well, my "secret" OpenDESK server (test machine) is
> using OpenMAIL on another test machine as SMTP gateway to get intranet
> and internet connectivity. I would like to get rid of the intermediate
> Unix box as it adds complexity and delivery delays.
>
> DeskLink/3000 would be my favourite choice. Runs on the 3000, is easy
> to setup, maintain, reliable and blazingly fast (does not use polling
> for the SMTP gateway like OpenMail does). I loved the trial but seems
> I won't be able convince my managers to buy the product (just for me
> and a few other MPE die-hards)... sigh.

Thanks for the comments on DeskLink. I notice that alot of HP3000 sites
are choosing not to put new applications on HP3000s nowadays - which is
a shame. E-mail being a mission critical application, running it on a
hard to manage/maintain/backup (and not as reliable) pc platform (even
the almighty NT platform) is an odd choice (IMHO).

> So I'm trying the freeware NetMail version with POP Clients like Eudora
> or Pegasus for Windows. Very promising execept for one issue: these two
> POP clients keep their folders locally on the PC, so I have my folders
> either at home or at the office and no easy way to drag them back and
> forth as it seems...
>
> Is this a limitation of the POP protocol or just of these POP clients?

Yes (as I noted above). IMAP is probably the answer there. It allows you
to manipulate host-based folders, do searching of your host-based message
store, and has features that generally make it easier if you switch around
among PCs accessing your mailbox.

IMAP4 is on our to-do list at 3k, though we haven't had any customer
requests for it, so it hasn't made it to the top of the list yet. LDAP
(the directory access protocol) is another one we'd like to do if we got
enough customer requests for it...

               -Chris Bartram


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