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Robert Boers <[log in to unmask]>
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 We are currently building a prototype HP3000e emulator, capable of running
unmodified MPE and its applications on a Windows platform. A picture
describing it is here:
http://www.softresint.com/hp3000/hp3000emulator.php

Note that this is an A/D project only, we have made no decision yet about
making it a product.

Regards,

Robert Boers
CEO
Software Resources International

"Alan Yeo" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
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> In message <[log in to unmask]>, Craig
> Lalley <[log in to unmask]> writes
> >
> >--- Alan Yeo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> As far as
> >> I'm aware there are no third parties currently willing to invest
> >> speculatively in doing this development, in the hope that there may be
> >> sufficient customers after 2006 to re-coop the investment.
> >
> >Alan,
> >
> >Please correct me if I am wrong here.  I am currently working on a
migration.
> >
> >IMAGE --> Eloquence ** Works awesome, performace is amazing!
> >MPE   --> MPUX from Ordina Denkart
> >VPLUS --> Wingspan from Ordina Denkart
> >COBOL --> AcuCobol I compiled 64 programs from the HP3K with a single
line
> >change in code!  I am currently attending AcuCobol training.
> >
> >There are several other companies, Speedware has AMXW, and your company
does
> >SCREENJET ( we need to talk :-) ) as a VPLUS emulator.
> >
> >So it appears that several companies are investing in MPE emulation.
>
> Hmmm, Crossed wires in terminology. I think the original posting was
> about running an HP3000 emulator that could continue to run MPE/iX, and
> the possibilities that MPE/iX might have some development future after
> end of HP Support. My comment was that if that's what people want then I
> think they are going to have to fund it.
>
> As to your migration, I would classify most of the products you mention
> more as conversion technologies that make it easier to migrate
> applications away from MPE/iX and the HP3000, rather than emulation
> products. For example Eloquence is not a TurboImage emulation, it is a
> fundamentally different structure. It just happens that there is a
> component that allows you to optionally access it with TurboImage calls,
> as though it was an Image database. And your right from my experience
> the performance and compatibility is excellent. However it is entirely
> possible that people could use Eloquence without ever knowing or using
> an Image call. So is it an emulation product?
>
> Likewise as you mentioned ScreenJet VPLUS conversion software, This
> converts the VPLUS screens and Processing Specifications into Native
> ACUCOBOL GUI screens and code. However there is an optional API that
> allows you to leave all the VPLUS calls in the application code to make
> migration easier, and ensure that the resultant user interface mimics
> the original. However it is entirely practical although more work to
> remove the VPLUS calls and handle the new screens directly. Likewise new
> screens can be created that use the API or not as the programmer
> chooses. So is it an emulation product?
>
> So I think what I'm trying to say is that what one person considers to
> be emulation, could be what another regards as migration or simulation,
> whilst to another emulation could mean MPE/iX running on different
> hardware.
>
> Maybe we need to come up with better terminology :-)
>
> >
> >My question now is... what is everyone doing about RPG?
> >
>
> Whilst I suspect that "everyone and RPG" is probably an oxymoron, as far
> as I'm aware the only conversion for HP3000 RPG comes from Richter
> Software, who have been converting RPG to COBOL for a goodly number of
> years. Try www.richter-software.de
> --
> Alan Yeo
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