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I have noticed many postings recruiting recruiters.  So I would guess
there are many more "recruiters" out there today looking to build a
portfolio of potential recruits.  Hence all the activity.

I also think that some of them are trying to build an email list of
prospects, possibly to sell?

John Lee



At 10:56 AM 10/23/2011, Al Karman wrote:
>Apparently the working definitions of both etiquette and recruiter are
>subject to interpretation.  I get calls/emails from 'recruiters' (maybe
>bots, who knows?) because 1 or 2 key words are picked up on my posted
>resume.  Just because my resume includes the word 'web' does not mean I have
>.PHP experience.  There are many more examples of this foolishness I have
>been slogging through recently...employment has become a desperate business
>and recruiters will grab ANY shiny object within their reach.  I actually
>had a knucklehead (technical term) call me 4:40pm one day last
>week...describing, in an absolutely unintelligible dialect an opportunity.
>  As always I asked for a detailed description be emailed to me...and his
>answer...'OK, how fast can you review it and get back to me'.  As expected,
>the position had nothing remotely to do with matching anything I do for a
>living.  Makes me wonder if snake-oil salesmen are making a comeback.
>
>Al Karman
>
>On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Mr. Anderson <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
> > My theory, is ironically, the computerized process of sifting through
> > the submitted resume data. I don't think anyone looks at these
> > applications anymore. Programs are written to systematically go through
> > the data. If the computer doesn't match you up with the desired criteria
> > then, as far as the humans are concerned, it is as if you don't exist.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 16:56 -0700, Penney, John wrote:
> > >  Dear Listers:
> > >
> > > Is it just me, and I can take criticism surely, but what in today's age
> > passes for etiquette with recruiters?
> > >
> > > Over the past several months I've talked to literally dozens of
> > recruiters and emailed tons of apps and resumes for positions that I was at
> > the very least modestly qualified to perform, some over-qualified, but that
> > is a different story.
> > >
> > > This is the reason for the post - I'll get the initial call (say, 40-50%
> > get back to me) asking for a resume re-format or whatever, then zero, nada,
> > bupkas, zilch, zippo, i.e. nothing happens.
> > >
> > > Phone calls are not returned or voice mails answered.
> > >
> > > Emails are unanswered.
> > >
> > > Communication of any nature is at a total and complete dead-end.
> > >
> > > Is this the list's experience? If so I'll accept this and stop what may
> > appear to be whining, but....
> > >
> > > Incidentally there is a small group of recruiters out there who do return
> > calls and emails if they're not proceeding with my candidacy, but, say, 5%?
> > >
> > > My experience only, YMMV, IIRC and so on.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any offline replies in advance.
> > >
> > > John M Penney
> > >
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