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Several articles were cited, and the experts consulted were named.  Each
one, with the exception of the article quoted here, said that the
features of the document were not impossible in the 70's, but were quite
rare, and not typical of the typewriters used by the military of the
time.

What I find interesting is CBS' unwillingness to name the "document
experts" they claim to have consulted.  Of course they would be expected
to protect the source who gave them the documents, but if they in fact
consulted with professional document experts, I can't imagine why their
identities should be secret.  CBS' secrecy puts the authenticity of the
documents and the rigor of their reporters' fact-checking in question,
IMHO.  I doubt that CBS was complicit in falsifying documents, but I
think they have been had, and lack the integrity to admit it.

In my opinion, the military records of the two candidates are perhaps
the least important issues being discussed during this campaign.  The
dishonesty of the smear campaigns of the swift boat veterans and now
this shadowy figure (and of campaign advertising in general) is of more
concern to me than the actual "facts" in question.

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Emerson, Tom
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:08 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes Documents on Bush Believed Fake

I'd be willing to wager the "expert" is under 30 in this case [well, ok,
perhaps under 40] and thus really doesn't "know" what was possible 30
years ago [being of an age when you generally don't pay attention to
things like that] -- one of the more sobering (?) "internet jokes" that
circulates every few years is "if your child is graduating today, he or
she wouldn't remember..." and goes on to list things like presidents
getting shot (at), rotary-dial phones; AUTOMOBILE seat-belts with lever
style latches [only found in airplanes and thrill rides nowadays...] and
so on.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> 
> " But the use of the superscript "th" in one document - 
> "111th F.I.S" - gave
> each expert pause. They said that is an automatic feature 
> found in current
> versions of Microsoft Word, and it's not something that was 
> even possible
> more than 30 years ago. "
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