Voting in a democracy is not a right, nor is it a privilege - it's a responsibility.
Raymond Shahan
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-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christian Lheureux
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [HP3000-L] RE : [HP3000-L] OT: knowledge on youtube
Income-based voting rights used to exist in France, well, around the 1850s.
And, of course, voting rights were restricted to male citizens. In history
classes, we do not dare call these old times "democratic".
Nor were they "Republican" : at the time, the power was held by emperor
Napoleon III.
Tax-based voting rights .... well ... sigh ... another resurrected old
idea. Sounds funny, after all.
Christian
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part
> de Raphael Sulkovitz
> Envoyé : lundi 22 janvier 2007 21:34
> À : [log in to unmask]
> Objet : Re: [HP3000-L] OT: knowledge on youtube
>
> It is refreshing to see how strong and entrenched is the democratic spirit
> in this country. That's why we can rightfully claim to be a light unto
> other nations. Chuck' suggestion to restrict voting, is not democraticly
> strict enough. What about allowing voting just to top earners, say,
> $500,00/annum (adjusted annually, for inflation). For the sake of
> diversity, we could, possibly, allow in other groups with qualifications
> such as good looks, athletic achievement, physical stature, academic
> performance. What a brave new world would that be!
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Chuck Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
>
> > Actually I think we need to leave some voters behind.
> >
> > Limiting the vote to those citizens who actually contribute to society
> > either through military service, public service, paying taxes or even
> > volunteering time/labor for community projects would make people value
> > their vote and perhaps encourage them to do some research on who they
> > are voting for.
> >
> > There are currently far too many societal freeloaders who contribute
> > nothing but always vote for whoever promises the most giveaway programs.
> >
> > Nobody has the 'right' to a free ride.
> >
> >
> > Comments are my own, not my employer's... etc.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> > Behalf Of John Lee
> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:29 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: OT: knowledge on youtube
> >
> > I know they're attempting to be humorous, but we do have that policy for
> >
> > all of our elected officials. It's called an election! How about a "No
> >
> > voter left behind" movement? Do your homework and hold your elected
> > officials accountable instead of letting them rob the treasury with
> > selfish
> > motives.
> >
> > John Lee
> >
> > At 11:26 AM 1/22/07 -0500, Bruce Collins wrote:
> > >John Clogg wrote:
> > >>What is the solution, then? Public schools are required to accept any
> >
> > >>student.
> > >
> > >Perhaps you need to adopt a "No Presidents Left Behind" Policy :-)
> > >
> > >http://www.avantnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=328
> > >
> > >Here's an excerpt:
> > >"
> > >A key provision of No President Left Behind is the requirement that the
> >
> > >office of the presidency develop a collection of assessments, policy
> > >success rates, and other indicators on which presidential performance
> > can
> > >be judged. Presidents will be required to meet Adequate Yearly Progress
> >
> > >(AYP) levels across the range of indicators, cross-referenced with
> > goals
> > >as announced in campaign appearances, State of the Union speeches, and
> > >other public events.
> > >
> > >Presidents who fail to meet AYP levels, to be externally assessed
> > though a
> > >rigorous NPLB annual testing program, are considered to have "fallen
> > >short", which then qualifies the failing president for additional
> > >assistance in the form of better advisors, better policies, and, in
> > >extreme cases, remedial education.
> > >"
> > >
> > >Bruce
> > >
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