Hi Art,
hope you are doing fine.
The value of the locks at my house is low.
My German shepherd dog and my 3 Glock's protect me, my wife and specially
my 4 kids much better than the locks. ;-)
How did he earn $400 million? I once read it was even over $600 million.
Then what should we pay a good president?
Ok, you got me there. W only gets what 200,000 or so. No wonder. for that
money you can't get a good CEO nor a good president. Hope the next one
gets paid better.
I read that the retirement, stock-options from Cheney with Haliburton
rose ,due to their huge profits and business with the pentagon, from a few
thousand to several millions. Now who'd thing that Cheney had anything to do
or used his influence for that.
Or the guys from Enron, Fannie Mae, Freddie and the Banks (BoA, Wachovia
Citi)?
Michael
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:35:04 -0700, Bahrs, Art
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Hi Michael ;)
> Actually, I have to differ... The former CEO of Exxon was worth $400
>million as that is what he/she got...Value is established by what is
>actually paid for something.
>
> I am learning this by having to place values on my Father's model
>railroad collection... SP 4449 Brass, Freedom Train Paint Scheme vs. SP
>4449 in Daylight Paint Scheme... Which is worth more? (note he has
>multiples of both!) Or what is the value of his little Brass, SP
>Electric Switcher? (hint it is quite literally the only one in the
>world as he made it and entered into contract negotiations to have it
>produced during which it was registered as the only one available and he
>was the only one authorized to make that model) The estimates I am
>getting all say "cannot be valued until one is sold"... Since he has the
>prototype and 3 production models he made ... Who knows what they are
>worth...
>
> The final value question I like to open with when I discuss ROI on
>security spending is "What is the value of the locks on your doors at
>your home?"
>
>Thanks,
>Art
>Art Bahrs, CISSP
>Security Engineer
>Providence Health & Services
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Michael Baier
>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:28 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: OT: Oil prices, and is it a conspiracy of sorts?
>
>Denys,
>
>the oil-companies can already drill in Texas and Louisianna.
>However they choose to buy back their own stocks and therefore raise the
>value of the stocks. Reason: often the compensation of oil-ceos depends
>on the stock-value.
>Makes sense, right.
>Remember when Exxon paid the former CEO over $400 million as a nice
>retirement-package. Who is worth that kind of money? NOBODY.
>
>The oil-companies can already drill in many spots but see no reason to
>do it.
>The CEO's make huge bonuses and don't care about anything else.
>GREED is the name of the game. Just ask Carly
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:28:01 -0500, Denys Beauchemin
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>I have done some further research and it seems that the congressional
>>moratorium on offshore drilling off the coast of California expires
>>this September 30th. Also, because the oil platforms are already there
>
>>on site, it would seem that oil could flow from there within a year.
>>This could have a major near-term effect on oil prices.
>>
>>Let's see what happens in Congress over the next 2 months. BTW, this
>>is the lowest rated congress, ever. I think that's a fitting
>>accomplishment for Ms. Pelosi and before she calls somebody a failure,
>>she had better look in a mirror, this way she doesn't have far to look
>for failure.
>>
>>Denys
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf
>>Of Ray Shahan
>>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:48 AM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Oil prices, and is it a conspiracy of
>sorts?
>>
>>LOL, I'm so embarrassed!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>Behalf Of James B. Byrne
>>Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 4:34 PM
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: Oil prices, and is it a conspiracy of
>sorts?
>>
>>On Fri, July 18, 2008 17:10, Ray Shahan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "An American President once said, perhaps more wisely than he knew,
>>that
>>> the only thing we need fear, is fear itself."
>>>
>>> I think Winston Churchill, an Englishman, said that...in England.
>>> Nonetheless, the quote still serves its purpose in you reply. 8-)
>>
>>" ... This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and
>>will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the
>>only thing we have to fear is fear itself - nameless, unreasoning,
>>unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat
>>into advance.
>>In
>>every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and
>>vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people
>>themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will
>>again give that support to leadership in these critical days."
>>
>>Franklin Delano Roosevelt, inaugural address, March 4, 1933.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
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