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Ed Sharpe <[log in to unmask]>
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Ed Sharpe <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:39:06 -0700
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Here is what actually happened.

Art Bell's friend  told me that  he HP 3000 microcode was really something
obtained from area 51, and in order to suppress the  further distribution of
it Carly, who is clearly with MAJESTIC  as well as the Compaq Board,  ( Yep!
MAJESTIC also) Has ordered the offending machines off the market in fear of
other races obtaining this microcode which really holds the key to
everlasting life.

The showing of Carley's legs during public meetings are indeed a big  issue,
as Art's friend, said a friend told him that he Grays had genetically
modified her legs to have hypnotic effect on other human beings, thus
making them want to freely and without thought  give up their HP 3000
systems.

You will  also notice that HP is in the news with their effective recycling
program. This  is defiantly a ruse to totally destroy any machines
containing this microcode beyond total recognition. Prison inmates are not
used like they employ at the subcontractor for dell thus  getting a better
control over he destruction process art's friend who told a friend who told
him said.

To insure that all microcode is  erased.... They have Tesla's brain
interfaced to control a mega high voltage generator producing enough EMP to
blow any and every semiconductor junction out of recognition....

All HAS to be true,  a friend of a friend of a friend that went to school
with Art Bell and had a sister that slept with the Kennedy's told me so....










with a giant grin!

ed sharpe
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Clogg" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Carly at HPWorld


OK, a long as we are speculating and/or hinting at things we may have heard
from inside, here is my take on the whodunit issue:
 1. Wirt is right when he says Winston did not kill the HP3000.  Surely that
decision was made at a higher level.
 2. Denys is right about it not being Carly's doing.  The decision was made
before she joined HP, despite the denials.
 3. The plug was pulled on Carly's watch, so she is ultimately responsible.
Let's not forget all the anguish on this list about Carly's repeated failure
to mention the HP 3000 in her various strategic statements months before the
announcement.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Denys Beauchemin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:50 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Carly at HPWorld


Let me turn that around.  Perhaps I have an inside track on this issue that
you and Wirt are nor aware of.

Denys

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Ed Sharpe
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Carly at HPWorld

Denys, it  may be that Wirt has an inside track on this issue that  you are
not aware of..   he is uncanny that way.

ed sharpe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denys Beauchemin" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Carly at HPWorld


> Once again, Wirt is confused, incorrect and trying to revise history.  The
only part of the Carly discussion I thought was a bit off
> the beaten path is Ed Sharpe's comment about her legs.  Also, I disagree
with Wirt about her influence or decision to kill the HP
> 3000.  I do not believe she knew the HP 3000 even existed.  She certainly
did not have any part in spinning off the innovative part
> of HP (Agilent.)  That was precursor to dropping the 3000 in my opinion.
>
> I am not defending Carly, I just think Wirt is unfairly blaming her.
>
> Denys
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
Of Wirt Atmar
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Carly at HPWorld
>
> Denys writes:
>
> > Ok people, focus.  This way off the beaten path and you didn't put OT:
on
> the
> > subject line.
>
> I can't imagine anything more on topic than discussing the person who
killed
> the HP3000. Although I have heard and carefully listened to the denials of
a
> fair number of people in CSY, many of whom I have great faith in, I remain
> convinced that Carly herself ordered the death of the HP3000, not a
relatively
> low-level perfunctory such as Winston. It's simply not the kind of
decision that
> a general manager would wake one day and make on his own.
>
> Long before the merger talks were made public, the HP3000 began to
> systematically fail to show up on HP's "strategic" list of servers, and
once the merger
> was announced, HP began talking about how it would provide "roadmaps" to
the
> future for those products that it would prune from its repertoire. All of
this
> occurred well in advance of the actual announcement of the death of the
HP3000.
>
> To be fair, HP put itself into a real bind by charging a significant
premium
> for the HP3000 vis-a-vis the 9000's, especially when the HP-UX machines
were
> already being increasingly considered too expensive themselves. HP only
greatly
> further exacerbated its problem with the HP3000 by not allowing its
revenues
> to accurately flow back into the division that generated the deep customer
> loyalty with its concern and care of its customers so that the customers
would
> continue to pay significantly expensive maintenance fees.
>
> MPE, if given half a chance, would -- and perhaps still could -- become a
> dominant operating system. But it never could given the conditions in
which it
> was nurtured within HP. Carly certainly wasn't the only source of the
problems
> that plagued the HP3000 -- they began long before her tenure -- but she
was the
> very direct cause of the end of the HP3000, and perhaps HP as well.
>
> Wirt Atmar
>
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