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Denys,

seems like the cache wasn't secured and it was still sealed when US forces
moved in.
Did the White House tell a fairy tale or was their/your "information" just
wrong?
Time for the Chief to resign.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/5058187.html

Last update: October 29, 2004 at 6:53 AM
KSTP video shows seal on Iraq bunker
Bob Von Sternberg and Paul Mcenroe,  Star Tribune
October 29, 2004 KSTP1029

Videotape shot by a Twin Cities television news crew in Iraq suggests that
a large supply of explosives and munitions was still being stored at Iraq's
unsecured Al-Qaqaa military installation nine days after the fall of
Baghdad in 2003.

The explosives could include HMX, powerful high-grade explosives that were
recently reported missing from Al-Qaqaa.

The KSTP-TV footage has become a new focus in a controversy that has
dominated the presidential campaign this week.

Sen. John Kerry contends that President Bush must take responsibility for
the missing explosives. "You were warned to guard them," Kerry said
Thursday in direct challenge to Bush. "You didn't guard them."

Bush has accused Kerry of jumping to conclusions about the missing
explosives, calling it a dangerous thing for a wartime president to do.

The Pentagon has said the weapons could have been moved before the U.S.
invasion in March 2003. But in a potential blow to Bush's case, the U.N.
nuclear agency said on Thursday that it had warned the United States about
the vulnerability of explosives stored at the installation.

The videotape shows a door of one of the Iraqi storage bunkers sealed with
cable and a disk that resembles seals used by the U.N.'s International
Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

If that is confirmed, it would mean that high-grade explosives monitored by
the agency were still being stored at Al-Qaqaa on April 18, 2003, the day
the video was shot. In January 2003, U.N. nuclear inspectors had placed
fresh seals over the doors of storage bunkers that contained HMX.

"The photographs are consistent with what I know of Al-Qaqaa," said David
Kay, a former U.S. official who led the recent hunt in Iraq for
unconventional weapons and visited the vast site. "The damning thing is the
seals. The Iraqis didn't use seals on anything. So I'm absolutely sure
that's an IAEA seal."

David Albright, a former U.N. weapons inspector, said Thursday that he
believes the explosives in the KSTP footage are HMX. He was in Iraq in the
mid-1990s and is now president of the Institute for Science and
International Security in Washington, D.C.

Inside the bunkers, the videotape showed boxes, plastic bags and drums of
what appeared to be various munitions. "I could see that there were these
cardboard kind of squarish boxes in the background, and that's how I
remember HMX being stored," Albright told the Star Tribune.

Albright said he sought further confirmation with another former weapons
inspector, whom he asked to review the tape. He declined to identify the
colleague but said he was at Al-Qaqaa during the last round of U.N.
inspections. "He knows about these bunkers," Albright said. "He definitely
was in these bunkers at various times."

His former colleague said that not only did the seal on the bunker in the
video look like an IAEA seal but also that the inside of the bunkers "look
just like I remember them when I was in there last."

Earlier this week, it was reported that 377 tons of high-grade munitions
disappeared from the Al-Qaqaa complex. Exactly when the munitions
disappeared has become a flashpoint in the presidential race, with
questions lingering over whether the explosives disappeared before or after
U.S. troops overthrew Saddam Hussein. Portions of the KSTP videotape were
aired Wednesday night after Dean Staley, the reporter embedded with the
101st Airborne Division, recognized recent news photographs of the
bunkers. "We didn't know what we had until the issue of the missing
explosives came up," said Chris Berg, news director at KSTP. "At the time
it was shot, Iraq's munitions weren't the news we were interested in."

The footage shows U.S. troops cutting into the bunkers with bolt cutters,
inspecting various kinds of munitions and then leaving without securing the
bunkers.

The TV report created a buzz on the Internet, and KSTP reported that its
Web site had received 200,000 hits Thursday, a tenfold increase over a
typical day.

The buzz was fueled in large part by liberal and partisan bloggers using it
as ammunition against Bush.

On Thursday, the IAEA announced that U.S. officials had been warned about
the vulnerability of explosives stored at Al-Qaqaa after another facility --
 the country's main nuclear complex -- was looted in April 2003. The agency
cautioned U.S. officials directly about Al-Qaqaa, the main storage facility
in Iraq for high-grade explosives.

Iraqi officials say the explosives were taken amid looting some time after
the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003, although the Pentagon and Bush have
suggested that the ordnance could have been moved before the United States
invaded on March 20, 2003.

An IAEA official told the Associated Press that the high-grade explosives
were stored in hundreds of heavy cardboard drums. A portion of KSTP's video
shows similar drums, labeled "explosive" and filled with powdery material.

"We're not munitions experts, so nobody was sure what it was," said Joe
Caffrey, the photographer who shot the video during a five-hour tour of the
complex.

Caffrey and reporter Dean Staley had been embedded with an air assault
battalion at a base 2 to 3 miles south of Al-Qaqaa. On April 18, two off-
duty soldiers drove up in their Humvee to the complex, and the journalists
went with them. "They were just going up there to look around, and we
decided to tag along," Caffrey said.

They passed as many as 50 bunkers, some broken open and empty, others
locked with chains and at least one with a seal resembling the kind used by
the IAEA. The soldiers used bolt cutters to open about a half-dozen locked
bunkers.

The soldiers were able to identify detonation cord, bombs and proximity
fuses scattered on the ground. "I'm an air traffic controller, not a
weapons expert," one soldier said on-camera as he poked through a box of
explosives.

Some barrels and boxes were labeled "explosive," and one crate was
stenciled with the words "AL QAQAA STATE ESTABLISHMENT."

The soldiers gathered documents to pass to their superiors, but they took
none of the munitions. "They didn't tell their officers anything about it,"
Caffrey said.

John Pike, who maintains a Web site specializing in satellite imagery,
GlobalSecurity.org, reviewed the station's video for the Star Tribune.

Using the video and global positioning system coordinates provided by
Caffrey, Pike concluded that the KSTP journalists were at Al-Qaqaa. He said
he reached that conclusion because the video shows igloo-like structures
that are consistent with buildings at Al-Qaqaa and because the global
satellite coordinates recorded by the film crew match those of the complex.

Military officials with the 101st Airborne Division's 2nd Brigade, in Ft.
Campbell, Ky., said Thursday that they couldn't say for sure if the TV crew
had actually been at Al-Qaqaa.

"I don't know if it's the same place, but we did missions in that area,"
said Lt. Fred Wellman, deputy public affairs officer for the unit. "There
were several facilities in that area that we dealt with."

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