On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 10:10 AM, VISTICA,ERIK (HP-USA,ex2)
wrote:

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>
> Romans 8
> 5   For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh;
> but
> they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Everyone does both but in different proportions.

> 6   For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded
> is life
> and peace.

Were all "carnal" thoughts eliminated, the human race would be extinct
and
unable to be spiritually minded.

> 7   Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not
> subject to
> the law of God, neither indeed can be.

God may have laws but nobody knows what they are. Not even you.

> 8   So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Thus God is not pleased by anyone. Poor God.

> --Saul (Paul) of Tarsus

Saul the dogma creator.

FW

For it was Socrates, himself one of the first philosophers, that
expounded at his trial, when comparing himself with a local politician
said,

      "Well, although I do not suppose that either of us knows
       anything really beautiful and good, I am better off than
       he is for he knows nothing, and thinks that he knows;
       I neither know nor think that I know."

And, of course, it was at this trial he was judged guilty of not
believing in the Gods of the state and was put to death.

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