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Art,

Instead of ponying up the full amount for an XPS, look at the 9300
series.  Basically the same machine, with a different exterior and video
card, at less of a cost.

I am running a 9100 and have been thrilled with performance.

Jeff 

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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
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Hi Denys :) and All :)
    I will post the answers to Denys' very pertinent questions later
tonight from the house... but the how much am I willing to pay?
question
is answerable now: :)

    I am willing to pay what the American Taxpayer has given me to spend
:)
ie... the first installment of my reenlistment bonus :)  3 years ->
$6,000.00 payable in 2 payments of $3,000

    I looked at the Dell XPS boxes last night... interesting...

For those who have been in... this is truely unique because the bonus
was
paid to a soldier with 18 years time in service at the point of
reenlistment... I didn't get a bonus to reenlist at 12 years time in
service.

Thanks, more tonight
Art

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I obviously don't stay up to date about the Mac stuff, so thank you for
setting me straight on that.

The Hitachi drives are the best in my opinion, they being ex-IBM drives
which were always my favorite.  However, before specifying 7,200 or
5,400 I
wanted to have an idea of the intended usage of this notebook as there
is a
premium to pay for the 7,200rpm.  In many cases, it makes more sense to
have
a substantially larger 5,400 drive instead of a smaller but pricier
7,200
rpm drive.

You bring up an excellent point about PC cards vs. PCI-express cards.
Over
the last 13 years or so, my laptops always had 2 PC-card slots (first
PCMCIA, then Cardbus and so on,) and I had an assortment of cards that
traveled with me.  At first it was modem cards then I added a LAN card.
Later is was SCSI cards with now a LAN+Modem card, then the 10/100 LAN
Card
and sound card, disk drive and CDPD wireless card and finally Wi-Fi
card.

When I bought my current notebook, it came with a single PC-card slot
and I
was worried this might not be enough.  I worried for naught however, as
I
very rarely have anything in there.  And the only thing that has gone in
there is an adapter for a CF-card to download pictures from my now-old
digital camera.  The notebook does have a built-in SD adapter but my
camera
is CF. I still have a 5GB PC-card format drive, but I rarely use it.

I have been making extensive use of USB however and to me USB slots are
far
more valuable than PC-card slots.  My headset is USB, my wireless mouse
is
USB, the printers are either USB or TCP/IP, and I can recharge my phone
over
the USB connection.  I also have a USB to serial cable for the times
when I
need my notebook to be the console on my HP3000s; there is no serial or
parallel port on this notebook.

So, I can't help but think that PCI-Express cards came in very late and
are
more of a solution in search of a problem.  My notebook has all the
things
built-in that in the past necessitated a PC-card thing.

My notebook is 18 months old; the newer ones have Bluetooth and wireless
broadband built-in.

All this to say, what is left that requires PC-cards now?

Denys
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Au contraire, mon frere!
Apple now has MacBook Pro's with Intel Core Duo processors.

It was a big announcements when they announced they were going over to
Intel.
I think they just released either the smaller 12" Macbook pro or the 17"
one.
They are very high on my "want-it-bad!" list.  Premium hardware in my
book.
The wife said we might splurge and get an iPod+video (60gig - she knows
me well ;-) for the Christmas though.
As far as travel-sized notebooks, I saw this Toshiba at BestBuy that was
one of the slimmest full-featured notebooks I've ever seen.  $1,999.
Not sure of the specs but Denys is right.  I wouldn't buy any
PC/Notebook that couldn't expand to 2 or more gig of ram.

You should also consider hard drive specs.  New laptop drives are
offered in 7,200 rpm models from Hitachi and I think Seagate.  Stay away
from Toshiba laptop drives.  Toshiba doesn't even use them in their
mobile pc's.

Also some of the newest models offer mobile PCI-express card slots now
instead of/in addition to PC-Card slots (which are archaic.)

Definitely go with a dual-core processor no matter what else you choose.
They are amazing!
--Bruno



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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 8:48 PM
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Gosh, that's a lot like asking:  "What kind of car would you recommend?"
or "What kind of rifle should I get?"

You have to give us some parameters.  The most important factor to know
will be the price.  How much do you have in mind as the maximum price?

Next, what do you mean "Laptop for the house"?  Is you house able to use
a laptop by itself or does it need help?

Just kidding, who is going to use this notebook?  Is this the only
system in the house?  Do you have a wireless network in the house?  Do
you plan to travel with this notebook?  Will you be watching movies on
this notebook?
In an ideal world, how long do you think you want to use this notebook?

My notebook is my only personal computer.  I use it all the time so I
spend money on it when I buy one, I do not look for the cheapest.

Whilst I travel a great deal, I wanted a 17inch screen.  I most usually
have my notebook plugged in, so battery life is not critical.

I know a lot of people who absolutely have to have a small, lightweight
system with a long battery life.

The latest technology now is Intel's Core Duo, essentially twin Pentium
M CPUs, giving great performance and low power consumption.  Many high
end notebooks now have twin disk drives providing RAID-0 or the more
desirable RAID-1.

Memory is usually expandable to 2GB and starts at either 512MB or 1GB,
anything less should be shunned regardless of the type of notebook.

Brands to consider:  HP/Compaq, Toshiba, Dell, Alienware, Asus.  You
might even look at Apple, but I do not believe they offer Core Duo yet.

DVD player and writer, look for DL (Dual Layer).

Wireless B/G minimum, maybe A if you see a need.

Some notebooks are now offering built-in wireless broadband access, is
this something you need/want?

Anyway, that's some food for thought, tell us more and we can be more
focused.


Denys
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Hi Denys & Olav :)
    I definitely second Denys comments... I am now in the process of
slowly collecting info and data on selection of a new Laptop for the
house as my HP Pavillion N5190 is not able to realistically support XP
of any flavor... let alone Vista or whatever it is being called today...

    So, at the risk of really starting a holy war... other than Macs
anyone want to make recommendations on features I should be looking for?
CPU model? Manufacturer?  I must admit that I am a bit biased against HP
and Panasonic... The HP bias is because of the construction of the N5190
didn't live up to my expectations... so not a hard and fast bias..

    So let the "discussion" begin ... hehehe

Art "just being me :) hehehe" Bahrs

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Can the response involve pyrotechnic compounds?

Seriously, a quick search at www.compaq.com shows that the Presario 5248
is only supported under Windows Me, 98 and 95.  There is no mention of
Windows NT, 2000 or XP so I think you do not want to install any of
these on this PC.

The 5248 has a 400MHz AMD-K6 with 64MB of slow RAM for a maximum of
384MB.

This is woefully inadequate for W2K or WXP.

Denys

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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:37 PM
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PC experts:

I am trying to install either w2k or wxp on a oldish PC Compaq Presario
5248 with AMD.

The reason is that the system just froze when booting up.

The problem is the system will not go past the identify of  hardware.

Any suggestions ?

Olav.

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