sysstart should ONLY be access when the system is booting. it should not be
busy/in-use during normal day-to-day activities.
first things first....
check the file with listfile,-3:
: listfile sysstart,-3
********************
FILE: SYSSTART.PUB.SYS
FILE CODE : 0 FOPTIONS: ASCII,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD
BLK FACTOR: 12 CREATOR : MANAGER.SYS
REC SIZE: 72(BYTES) LOCKWORD:
BLK SIZE: 864(BYTES) SECURITY--READ : CR
EXT SIZE: 8(SECT) WRITE : CR
NUM REC: 12 APPEND : CR
NUM SEC: 16 LOCK : CR
NUM EXT: 1 EXECUTE : CR
MAX REC: 12 **SECURITY IS ON
MAX EXT: 1 FLAGS : NO ACCESSORS
NUM LABELS: 0 CREATED : WED, NOV 21, 2007, 10:52 PM
MAX LABELS: 0 MODIFIED: WED, NOV 21, 2007, 10:52 PM
DISC DEV #: 1 ACCESSED: MON, OCT 6, 2008, 2:30 PM
SEC OFFSET: 0 LABEL ADDR: $00000013.$0068E220
VOLCLASS : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC
creator is manager.sys
ownership is cr
security is on
disc dev is 1
given what you're describing...i suspect that this file has been some how
cataloged.
type: showcatalog;user=manager.sys
and send us the results. - d
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Donna Hofmeister
Allegro Consultants, Inc.
408-252-2330
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Paul Raulerson
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:27 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] How to edit the SYSSTARTUP.PUB.SYS file?
>
> <grin> Yes sysstartup_vms.com is the startup file under OpenVMS. I
> definitely meant SYSSTART.PUB.SYS.
>
> Problem is on this system, the file is locked and it is near impossible
> to get it *unlocked* - at least my any method I have
> been able to devise. Did get it unlocked one time, but I sure don't
> know how I did it. Tried all the stuff I can think of, like booting the
> machine into Single User mode, setting the automatic login to
> MANAGER.SYS, NOSYSSTART, etc.
>
> The little bugger insists on refusing to allow the file to be edited. A
> listfile sysstart.pub.sys 9, even with the system in Single user mode,
> gives me this:
>
> :listfile sysstart.pub.sys 9
> ********************
> FILE: SYSSTART.PUB.SYS
> 6 Accessors(O:6,P:6,L:0,W:0,R:6),Share
> #S7 MANAGER.SYS P:2,L:0,W:0,R:2 REM :
> 216.110.21.130
> #P22 (CI.PUB.SYS)
> ACCESS: R-excl REC#: 0 FNUM: 9
> LOCKS: none
> #P48 (JSMAIN.PUB.SYS)
> ACCESS: R-excl REC#: 14 FNUM: 13
> LOCKS: none
> ...
> ...
> ... [ more users here because I took this in multi-user mode ]
> ...
> ...
> With multiple users logged in, there is one set of these for each user,
> and one for the JINETD streamed job that supplies TCP/IP services like
> a telnet server.
>
> I *think* the problem may have something with the "R-excl" - some kind
> of exclusive lock on the file. Not at all sure.
>
> I did not initially understand that there was something - eh - "odd"
> about the way this little system was behaving. It looks like
> a real puzzle to me, but is probably some really simple answer.
> :)
>
> -Paul
>
> >
> >
> >On Monday, October 06, 2008, at 12:39PM, "Stan Sieler"
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>Hi Paul,
> >>Subject: [HP3000-L] How to edit the SYSSTARTUP.PUB.SYS
> file?
> >>
> >>There is no such file: non-HFS filenames are limited to 8 characters
> per
> >>part, and "SYSSTARTUP" is a bit more than 8 :)
> >>
> >>If you're referring to SYSTART.PUB.SYS, then:
> >>
> >>1) logon as MANAGER.SYS (important...the OS checks the creator of
> that file
> >> as a security check)
> >>
> >>2) :editor (or whatever editor you prefer....but EDITOR is
> MPE's vi...
> >> free and on every system)
> >>
> >> edit to your heart's content
> >>
> >>3) k
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> k sysstart, unn (if making a new file)
> >>
> >>The "unn" means: keep the file unnumbered (you don't want sequence
> numbers
> >>in columns 73..80!).
> >>
> >>Hope that helps,
> >>
> >>Stan
> >>
> >>--
> >>Stan Sieler
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >>www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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