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What if one boots up with the SINGLE-USER method just for this operation, would it abrogate the FPROTECT?


Tracy Johnson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Mark Ranft
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:14 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Mpe: Restore storecat.pub.sys
> 
> Stan,
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> The file STORECAT is protected by the OS at bootup as it is included in a
> list of 'protected' files in FPROTECT.PUB.SYS.
> 
> 
> Mark Ranft
> Pro3K
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Stan Sieler
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:36 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Mpe: Restore storecat.pub.sys
> 
> Hi,
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> Did anyone look at their HP3000? :)
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>    :listf storecat.pub.sys, 2
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> shows it's in use
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>    :listf storecat.pub.sys, 9
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> shows who's using it.  (try it before scrolling)
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> Yep, it's opened at bootup time by PROGEN (PIN 1).
> 
> (Extra credit if you know why (from a philosophical viewpoint, and also
> from the procedural viewpoint) :)
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> That means it's not easy to remove / rename.
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> I'm guessing she rebooted since building the fake STORECAT ... because
> creating the fake STORECAT would not immediately cause an open of it by
> PROGEN (the open is done at bootup).
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> If she hasn't done a bootup, then the fake STORECAT should be purgeable,
> and the approach several people gave (restoring into a different group)
> should work fine.
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> There are two approaches to replacing the fake STORECAT (once it's opened
> by
> PROGEN) with the real one:
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>    1. do something to cause STORECAT.PUB.SYS to not be opened at bootup;
>       then, reboot, and do the purge/rename as desired.
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>       Although possible, not trivial.
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>    2. close STORECAT.PUB.SYS now, then do the purge/rename as desired.
> 
> Allegro has ... of course :) ... a utility that can usually succeed in
> closing specified files.  It's on our website, it's free, and it's called
> XCLOSE.
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> Your support people should be able to show you how to install it on your
> system and how to run it.
> <plug> If they can't, may I suggest emailing [log in to unmask] </plug>
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> Once closed, assuming the good STORECAT is in, say, the group FOO:
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>    :purge storecat.pub.sys
>    :rename storecat.foo, storecat.pub.sys
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> Although it is important to restrict STORECAT to ldev 1, it's probably
> already marked that way, thus the RESTORE of STORECAT.PUB.SYS into the
> local group (e.g., FOO), will have retained that restriction.
> 
> Stan
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