Tony White <[log in to unmask]> postulates:

> I have encountered an event and I need to make sure I have thought of all
> the reasons it could have happened.
>
> During our month end processing last night, one of our Turbo Image data
> bases disappeared except for the root file. The data base is fairly large:

<snip>

> At 4:11 a job finished that was both reading and writing to this db. At
4:12
> another job discovered that all the sets and the GB file were gone leaving
> only the root file.
>
> I have searched all the stdlists from today for "dbutil", "purge h",
"store
> " and "dbgenrl" and have found nothing to explain what happened.
>
> HP has examined logs and sent out a CE to do diagnostics with no hardware
> problem being found.
>
> I cannot think of a way for this data base to have been purged except by
> someone at the CI prompt.
>
> Am I missing anything?

Tony, just some thoughts off the top of my head:

Are you using Image logging?  If so, you should be able to examine the log
files to see what happened.

I wouldn't worry about DBUTIL.  If someone used DBUTIL to PURGE the data
base, then the root file would be gone as well.

A STORE;PURGE would do this, but you would have to do extra work to keep the
root file and store/purge all the others.

You probably can programmatically delete privileged files, but I wouldn't
know how to do it without looking in the intrinsic manual (I'm pretty sure
you have to get "priv mode" before you can do anything with a privileged
file).

MPEX will purge privileged files without causing a major fuss.

There may be some DB-type utilities in PUB.SYS that would do this, but I'm
not certain.

JIM,MGR.TOL,PUB  9:23 PM> LISTF [log in to unmask],2
ACCOUNT=  SYS         GROUP=  PUB

FILENAME  CODE  ------------LOGICAL RECORD-----------  ----SPACE----
                  SIZE  TYP        EOF      LIMIT R/B  SECTORS #X MX

DBCONV    PROG    128W  FB          78         78   1       80  1  1
DBDRIVCM  PROG    128W  FB          66         66   1       80  1  1
DBDRIVER  NMPRG   128W  FB         508        508   1      512  1  8
DBDUMP    PROG    128W  FB          14         14   1       16  1  1
DBINDEX   NMPRG   128W  FB         190        190   1      192  1  8
DBLOAD    NMPRG   128W  FB         254        254   1      256  1  8
DBMON   * NMPRG   128W  FB         103        103   1      112  1  8
DBRCVCM   PROG    128W  FB         439        439   1      448  1  1
DBRECOV   NMPRG   128W  FB        1156       1156   1     1168  1  8
DBRESTOR  PROG    128W  FB          29         29   1       32  1  1
DBSCHEMA  NMPRG   128W  FB         830        830   1      832  1  8
DBSTORE   PROG    128W  FB          34         34   1       48  1  1
DBUNLOAD  NMPRG   128W  FB         277        277   1      288  1  8
DBUT1LD   PRIV     92W  FB         336        336   1      256  1  *
DBUTIL    NMPRG   128W  FB        1619       1619   1     1632  1  8
DBUTILB   PROG    128W  FB          55         55   1       64  1  1

I don't know what all these programs do.

Any chance the data base is still there, but just in the wrong
group/account? (grasping at straws)


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