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Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>
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On a system similar to yours, I also have content.ie5 not hidden and a total
of 42,766 files in 34 folders for 430MB.  So, I went into IE and used tools
and purged the temp files.  Now WE shows 31 files, 14 folders and 16.4MB.
15.4 MB are in one file, \\content.IE5\index.dat.

Oh crumbs, another non-conspiracy.


Denys...

-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
David Powell
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OT - Super-hidden files on Windows XP

On my Windows 2000 system with IE 6.0 service-pack 1, I also have about 90
meg of these files in 'content.ie5', but I can see them without any special
tricks.  Also, something must be cleaning them out somehow, 'cause the
oldest files there are from April 2002, and I have had the machine for a lot
longer than that.  When I selected the 'content.ie5' folder and hit the del
key it told me it was a system folder and asked if I really wanted to....so
I chickened out, at least for tonight.

Dave ("Waiting to see what the rest of you think before I run around the
building zapping this stuff from all our PCs") Powell


----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Brown" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:34 PM
Subject: [HP3000-L] OT - Super-hidden files on Windows XP


> Wow. I can still hardly believe this stuff.....
>
> Have you ever come across super-hidden files?
>
> Use Windows, and it marks files 'Hidden' and 'System'. Tyros run without
> being able to see these, or monkey with them, which is best all round
> probably.
>
> But us power users like to know what's out there. So we go into Windows
> Explorer and turn on every selectable Viewing option in Tools/Folder
> Options/View - Hidden, System, File Extensions, etc.
>
> But there are *still* files that are deliberately hidden from you by (in
> my case, certainly) Windows XP.
>
> I'm not talking Hidden, I'm not even talking System; some web references
> call these 'super-hidden' (in which case I'd be talking about
> super-duper-hidden, but I want to avoid the escalation).
>
> And are these critical system files? Nope - just the results of you
> surfing the web. Now why would Microsoft want these hidden away? And I
> guess they're deleted when I ask IE6 to delete my temporary internet
> files, aren't they? Guess again. A few *copies* get scrapped when you do
> that, but that's all.
>
> How did I find all this? Well, NAV reported a trojan in C:\Documents and
> Settings\Roy\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\
> ETO36DM5\id8525[1[].cab
>
snip......
> Truly weird.... try the 'net. Googling for 'super-hidden files' found a
> few references to 'System' files, but then turned up a link to a real
> gem:
>
> http://membrane.com/security/secure/Microsoft_Is_Unscrupulous.html
>
> Unbelievable! Armed with that knowledge, I tried a 'Properties' on the
> folder that WE was telling me held only a few left-over files found by
> IE6. It showed me there were *90mB*, in *14 folders*, inside it.
>
snip...
>
> So, a secret history of everything you ever did on the net, not deleted
> by IE6 when you ask it to delete your temporary internet files, taking
> up 90 mB of your disk space, and acting as a perfect virus haven...
>
> ....thanks a bunch Micro$oft....
>
> If you have WinXP, or, I think Windows2000, navigate to your equivalent
> of C:\Documents and Settings\Roy\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> (Roy is my username) and see what the contents look like.
>
> Then right-click 'Properties' for the Temporary Internet Files folder.
> What does that report the contents as? You'd be surprised......
>
> Want to see them? Manually add /Content.IE5 to the end of the path in
> WE's Address bar, and press Go. Looky there......
>
> What's going on here? I think we should be told....
>
> --
> Roy Brown        'Have nothing in your houses that you do not know to be
> Kelmscott Ltd     useful, or believe to be beautiful'  Wm Morris
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