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Better yet, I think we should spend the money on breaking down mountains of coal rather than digging tunnels for safety reasons, and why build NukUler energy plants when we can burn the coal we scrape off the mountains and for that matter we do not need to build more fuel effective cars just build bigger ones that we can all share a ride with.

What the heck we are only responsible for what amounts to 0.0006% of the damage anyway.

my .02c

-------------- Original message from Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]>: -------------- 


> I see your point. 
> 
> It's a bit like the Kyoto stupidity that aims to force the signatories to 
> reduce their emission of CO2 into the atmosphere to levels lower than 1990. 
> It appears that signing the protocol makes you a good person, even if you 
> have no intention of meeting your obligations. At this time, it seems the 
> only country which has drastically reduced its CO2 emissions is the USA, 
> which thankfully did not sign on to the farce in the first place. (But we 
> do get blamed for every meteorological event.) 
> 
> I was checking recently into exactly what constitutes greenhouse gases, what 
> the effect of greenhouse gases is and how much CO2 is being emitted by 
> humans and came to realize the following (and I am happy to be corrected :) 
> 
> The Earth in its current orbit would be 30 degrees Celsius colder if it were 
> not for the presence of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The most 
> important greenhouse gas is water vapor, good old H20, which makes up to 4% 
> of the atmosphere. This water vapor accounts for about 95% of the 30 
> degrees mentioned earlier and water vapor is twice as efficient as CO2 in 
> its role as a greenhouse gas. Carbon Dioxide accounts for about 0.03% of 
> the atmosphere. 
> 
> Further, man-produced CO2 accounts for about 0.02% of the total CO2 found in 
> the atmosphere. So, 2% of the 0.03% amounts to 0.0006% of the 5% of the 
> warming of the atmosphere or 0.00003% of the 30 degrees Celsius above what 
> the temperature would be without greenhouse gases. 
> 
> 0.00003% of 30 degrees, that's 0.0009 degrees. Yep, it's time to panic. 
> 
> I think the scores of billions of dollars to be wasted on Kyoto would indeed 
> be better spent looking for heat from the Moon, it's a cold universe out 
> there. 
> 
> Denys 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf 
> Of Shahan, Ray 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:08 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: I love global warming! 
> 
> No, no, no *you* don't understand. GWB wouldn't be responsible for 
> restoring the Sun's output level, he'd be responsible for the "no bid 
> contract" for Halliburton to restore the Sun's output level. And if you 
> play the scenario out, Halliburton would spend several years and 
> billions of dollars trying to get heat from the moon. 
> 
> 8-) 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Denys Beauchemin [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:59 AM 
> To: Shahan, Ray; [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] OT: I love global warming! 
> 
> No, no, no. You don't understand. If GWB were to restore the Sun's 
> output 
> level, that would be good for humanity and we can't have that. Don't 
> you 
> realize that everything GWB does is bad for humanity or the planet, most 
> times both. 
> 
> Denys 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf 
> Of Shahan, Ray 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:30 AM 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] OT: I love global warming! 
> 
> Denys reports: " Scientist predicts 'mini Ice Age' 
> ST. PETERSBURG, Russia, Feb. 7 (UPI) -- A Russian astronomer has 
> predicted 
> that Earth will experience a "mini Ice Age" in the middle of this 
> century, 
> caused by low solar activity. ". 
> 
> And then Denys adds " I bet you GWB is behind the plot to reduce the 
> Sun's output." 
> 
> Hmmmm, I don't think GWB would be behind that kind of a plot, but on the 
> other hand, I could see GWB giving a "no bid contract" to Halliburton to 
> restore the sun's output level. 
> 
> 8-) 
> 
> 
> Have a great week! 
> 
> Ray Shahan 
> 
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