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Re: OT: Spam on HP3000-l (long)
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Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:12:42 -0500
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I wrote:
> ... the impressive amount
> of spam I get. I've been subscribed to and posting to this list for about
> five years. Last time I needed to count, I got about 150 spam a month.
I've
> learned that there are a number of things one can do to report spam.

and Richard L Gambrell wrote:
> ... there is no protection from such junk
> on the list.  Sending spam messages delivered to you from hp3000-l
> to spamcop only makes extra work for UTC's postmaster to defend
> against the charge that raven.utc.edu is a spammer.

So, I need to clarify that I am NOT talking about reporting the spam sent to
the listserv. In fact, I believe that spamcop actively discourages this, for
several reasons, including the problem that Richard states. And, once they
have dealt with a listserv or other innocent party, they can "refuse to
bother" that party. But I am referring to spam that is addressed to me
(ignoring for a moment that the human readable header may contain just about
anything or even nothing in the To: field). That is all I am reporting, in
the belief that progress can be made against spammers.

For instance, right now, as I recall the details, an ISP named Paetec has a
lawsuit filed against it by MonsterHut, against whom Paetec took action for
spamming. MonsterHut insists, incredibly, that those who complained had
"opted in" to receive their email, a claim that can be examined by the
courts. So Paetec has asked those who reported spam to send them a notarized
affidavit that they did not opt in, and MonsterHut has to attempt to show
proof that those who complained did. The outcome of this lawsuit has the
potential to turn things to the advantage of whoever wins.

And, for the record, this weekend's spam haul is 31 spam. It takes careful
attention to hit delete exactly 31 times, and only the right 31 times. It's
a nuisance, and it's costing one ISP my business, as I retire the home
address I have had with them for five years.

Greg Stigers
http://www.cgiusa.com

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