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"Jonathan M. Backus" <[log in to unmask]>
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Dennis,

        Have you done a "listfile eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,3;pass" to see the creator
and security set on the file?

Thanx,
        Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Gaunt, Dennis x5324 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: Stuck Files


I am logged on as manager.sys, I just default to the operator group when
logging on.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan M. Backus [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:24 PM
> To:   'Gaunt, Dennis x5324'
> Subject:      RE: Stuck Files
>
>
> Dennis,
>
>       Have you tried logging on as MANAGER.SYS and purging it?  I noticed
> your
> earlier example implied OPERATOR.SYS.  The error message you are getting
> can
> be caused by file access or the lack of capabilities of the current user.
>
> [3]/SYS/PUB>help cierr384
> MESSAGE   UNABLE TO PURGE FILE !. (CIERR 384)
>
> CAUSE     The file you specified is either being used, or you do not
>           have the appropriate capabilities to purge it.
>
> ACTION    Check the output of LISTF command to see if the file is
>           being used.  If not, check to see if you currently have the
>           appropriate capabilities to purge the file.  Consult with
>           your account manager or system manager.
>
> Thanx,
>   Jonathan (Jon) M. Backus, MPE-CSM ~ President
>   Tech Group ~ 15 Catawba Place ~ Hagerstown, MD ~ 21742-6515
>   Email: [log in to unmask] ~ AIM: JMBackus
>   Vmail: 301.988.0614 ~ Fmail: 301.714.1854
>   Web: www.TechGroupMD.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf Of Gaunt, Dennis x5324
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:21 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Stuck Files
>
>
> listf eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,2
> ACCOUNT=  AIHBETA     GROUP=  DATA
>
> FILENAME  CODE  ------------LOGICAL RECORD-----------  ----SPACE----
>                   SIZE  TYP        EOF      LIMIT R/B  SECTORS #X MX
>
> ECLXCOPY          200B  FAK          0    1150000  20    98832 18  *
>
> listf eclxcopy.data.aihbeta,9
> ********************
> FILE: ECLXCOPY.DATA.AIHBETA
> 0 Accessors
>
> This file was created by a batch file, that one of our programmers made.
> I'm still a little sketchy as to its use, but he explains that this
> program
> is no longer used.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shahan, Ray [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:08 PM
> > To:   'Gaunt, Dennis x5324'; [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      RE: Stuck Files
> >
> > Do a LISTF,2 and ,9 on the file.
> >
> > Send the results of the 2 LISTF command back to this list, so we can see
> > what you got.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Gaunt, Dennis x5324 [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent:       Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:55 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject:    Re: Stuck Files
> > >
> > > (Run as SM)
> > >
> > > OPERATOR.SYS:purge eclxcopy.data.aihbeta
> > > END OF FILE  (FSERR 0)
> > > Unable to purge file "ECLXCOPY.DATA.AIHBETA". (CIERR 384)
> > >
> > > The file has no accessories, and has not been accessed since its
> > creation
> > > almost a year ago.  As a side note the file has no records but is
> taking
> > > up
> > > 98832 Sectors.  Thats a lot of nothing...
> > > I have also tried to Store this file to Null, with a purge, and it
> > failed
> > > with same errors.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Berkowitz [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:08 PM
> > > > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject:      Re: [HP3000-L] Stuck Files
> > > >
> > > > Dennis Gaunt writes
> > > >
> > > > I'm new to the HP3000 scene and I'm still learning the ropes.  Does
> > > anyone
> > > > out there know how to purge a file that is "stuck open"  it has no
> > > > processes
> > > > attached and no sessions associated with it, yet when I attempt to
> > purge
> > > > it,
> > > > the file is "In use".  Can someone give me a clue or perhaps some
> > > insight
> > > > into something I am missing?
> > > >  Thanks,
> > > >  Dennis Gaunt, MIS
> > > >  Community Care of Oklahoma
> > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > Do the following first
> > > > :LISTFILE filename,9
> > > > See if anyone has the file open
> > > > If no one does, then
> > > > :PURGE filename
> > > > report the exact message back to the list if it doesn't purge
> > > >
> > > > Mike Berkowitz
> > > > Guess? Inc.
> > > >
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