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Michael Baier <[log in to unmask]>
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Michael Baier <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:01:34 -0400
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Back in my school-days, I remember, at election-time, that we wore T-shirts
and buttons of the party that our teachers didn't "like".
We knew the political favorite of several teachers and just wore those
items without knowing what they stood for. Just because the kids in higher
classes wore them. We were 12 at the time.

Did we get in trouble? NOPE
Anything the teacher/principal could do about it? NOPE
Did we stick with the same political opinion? NOPE

Michael


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:04:56 -0700, John Clogg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Free speech (about promiscuity or anything else) is protected by the
>constitution, but that does not mean that schools can't regulate speech
>within their premises.  As an example, how would you react if your
>child's first grade teacher greeted the class each morning with "F**k
>you, you little s**ts!" and the school's administration responded to
>complaints with "The teacher has a right to free speech?"
>
>This is an extreme example, of course, and I agree that the school
>administrators overreacted to the t-shirts, but this is not a
>constitutional matter, and it's not a matter of promoting homosexuality
>over heterosexuality.  Debate about such questions is not helped by such
>hyperbole.
>
>John Clogg
>
>My opinions are my own, not my employer's, etc.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of John Lee
>Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 1:16 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: OT: More Evolution
>
>So is promiscuity illegal?  Dangerous?  Profane?  Pornographic?  Why is
>it
>not protected under the constitution?  What is unique about it that it's
>not protected as freedom of speech?
>
>I understand that most of us don't want our daughters or sons to be
>promiscuous, but should the State be involved in that?  Most of America
>doesn't want their kids to be gay, either (according to polls), but
>should
>the State be regulating that?  That's my problem with this.  If it's
>promiscuity today, what will it be tomorrow?  It's exactly why the law
>protects speech.
>
>John Lee
>
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