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"Real programmers write their own sort routines."  Is this correct, Brian?

Denys

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From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Brian Duncombe
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Hot Data Processing Careers

At 02:54 PM 12/1/2005, Bruce Collins wrote:
>Brian Donaldson wrote:
>
>>For years I have said that 4g/l's produce lame brained programmers who
don't
>>have to think too much about what they do to produce a result, just let
the
>>computer figure it out for you...
>
>That's exactly what my professors said when they allowed us to use 
>calculators (instead of slide rules) way back in my second year of 
>engineering.  ;-)

Yes, and as I recall, the next comment was "wait till you see how 
complicated a problem we can have now that the mechanics of 
calculating the solution are simplified".  I think that also applies 
to programming, if the tool takes the bulk of the work required to 
implement, we can solve much more complex problems.

I am a confirmed "real programmer", no sissy 4GL stuff for me!  I do, 
however, see that we would not accomplish all that we want if we 
insist on SPL.


>Bruce
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