Duane Percox wrote:

> 6. I think our energy and $$ can be more wisely spent developing
>    new systems and solutions for our favorite platform. Let CSY
>    fight the battle internal at HP for mindshare. Besides,
>    I'm beginning to tire of all this negative talk. Its beginning to
>    appear like a bunch of little kids jumping up and down whining that
>    they aren't getting what they want.

ah 'whining' :-)

for the 10 people who already heard me say this during sig sysman :-) i
apologize for saying this again....

as a whole, hp3000-l has whining down to an art.  we take every deserved
and undeserved opportunity to jump allover hp.  i fully admit that at times
hp should be 'taken to the shed' but it doesn't detract from my point --
that we do very little other than whine.

as a group, i feel we represent some of the *best* computer people in the
industry -- in terms of character and experience.  yet, are we part of
mpe's problem or are we part of the solution?  frankly, i feel that if we
do nothing but complain and gripe -- then we most certainly are part of the
problem.

during sig sysman, i challenged both hp/csy and the mpe community to find a
way to promote mpe.  in winston's email, he clearly said he (and i'll take
that as meaning 'csy') wanted to work with us to improve mpe.  when i think
of the energy that 3000-l can generate, when i think of the passion
demonstrated *every* day on this list -- i have no doubt that *we* hold the
future to mpe!  and when (not if) this is coupled with csy -- i see no
limits to what can be done.

several of the sig leaders met with dave wilde during hp world to start
building the foundation of this partnership.  but a dozen people aren't
going to be able to carry this off all by themselves.

so i ask -- hp3000-l?  what are we going to do to help mpe?  i have one
idea.  i think all of us know 3000 shops that are completely disconnected
from 'the outside world'.  they don't belong to interex.  they don't know
of or participate on the list.  we need to get them -- an quickly --
because they're probably ready to turn off their mpe box(es) because they
don't know what mpe can do for them *today*.  who has another idea?

and i ask -- hp/csy?  give us a way to partner with you.  tell us how we
can help.  there's an army ready to be mobilized but we need a general.

ron seybold called me a 'john the baptist' once upon a time.  i'll take the
title :-)         - d

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