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September 1998, Week 4

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Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:30:50 -0400
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Tracy Johnson wrote:
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> On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Stan Sieler wrote:
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> > HP seems hell-bent on slowly removing from HP-UX any vestige of
> > any HP-specific features.  It really makes you wonder why
> > there *is* an HP-UX kernel lab, and what they're doing.

And ironically, while removing block mode from HPUX ptys in favor of
pure streaming ptys, it is MPE that begs for streaming ptys while it
pushes block mode!  Perhaps removing vt3k was a precursor to this.

> > Looks like HP-UX needs to import some customer care concepts from
> > MPE land!

They do get some things right.  At least they have plentiful hardware
drivers for the latest gizmos, pretty neat logical volume management
and Online JFS (granted mostly based on Veritas technology).  This lets
you allocate logical volumes (MPE=user volumes) on pieces of physical
volumes (you can divide a physical disc among multiple logical volumes).
The Online JFS lets you defragment volumes and *reduce* the size of the
volumes (try that with volutil without a reload).

Not that I'm an HPUX convert, it's still a pain in the backside, but
after looking around for a year, I have found a couple of interesting
features (albeit hidden in a plethora of nightmarish other oddities!).

> Seems like HP-UX is starting to get the same short-shrift that MPE
> used to get earlier this decade when HP was leaning more heavily
> towards HP-UX. So this begs the question, what is HP's agenda now?

64-bit and IA64, high availability (MC ServiceGuard <cough>), and some
other issues.  Plus routine maintenance.  The number of patches to HPUX
is overwhelming.  Try subscribing to the HPUX patch digest if you like
getting 10Mb mails on Sundays.  That's just the *descriptions* folks.

Jeff Kell <[log in to unmask]>
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