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Dennis Walker <[log in to unmask]>
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Dennis Walker <[log in to unmask]>
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Actually evolution doesn't preclude a "GOD", what is the case is that all
the laws of physics that fell out of the initial state giving rise to the
big bang, gave us a universe that precludes life (likely many "earths" or
versions of life).  But one of the fall outs from the big bang theory is
what caused the initial state that gave rise to this set of physical laws, a
new place to insert an intelligent designer :)

"Jim Phillips" <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
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> "Steve Dirickson" <[log in to unmask]> writes:
>
> > I don't see it. Evolution provides an answer--that appears to be
> > elegant, consistent, and complete--to "how"; I don't see anything
> > anywhere in it that remotely tries to address "why". Which is why this
> > "you must choose God or evolution" thing seems so stupid to me:
> > allowing only one of them means that you'll always be "wrong", because
> > you'll have only part of the answer.
>
> Ah, but in the bigger picture of the answer to "Life, the Universe, and
> Everything", it does indeed, because the "How" implies the "Why".  That
is,
> the mechanism used to generate life provides the purpose for that life.
>
> Intelligent design theory (and, for the sake of this discussion, I include
> creationism - Judeo-Christian or otherwise - in that theory) says that
some
> Creator, an outside force, purposely started life (at whatever level) on
> this planet (there is some dissension about whether this Creator
> continued/continues to direct the life it started).  This implies that the
> Creator had a purpose for this life.  Most theologies are formed to
discern
> this purpose, which is usually some higher goal that lies outside mankind.
> Thus we have the eight-fold path, the ten commandments, the Hammurabic
Code,
> etc. (ethical/moral laws) because adherents are trying to find out what
> standard of conduct the Creator intended for its creation to meet.
>
> Evolution says that there was no Creator, no outside force whatsoever,
that
> had any hand in creating life.  Life just began by pure, blind chance.
Not
> only that, but each step up the evolutionary ladder was also the product
of
> pure, blind chance.  Since there is no purpose for the creation of life,
> then there can be no standard of conduct for that life and one set of
> standards is pretty much as good as any other.  There can be no
> ethical/moral law, only a law of consensus or societal constraints that
have
> no absolutes to call upon.
>
>
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